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Post by Salek on Dec 23, 2012 7:28:28 GMT
More for the record, not expecting to see this happen:
Those classes/quasiclasses which get weapon specialization for free should also be able to get the paragon version.
Slingers and warchanters comes to mind
Salek
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Post by Vichya on Dec 23, 2012 7:34:39 GMT
They can get it almost for free by splashing one fighter level in the epic levels after they get the weapon specialization feat. That allows them to take the epic version and everyone can take the legendary and paragon feat if they have the epic one.
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Post by desocupado on Dec 23, 2012 11:14:41 GMT
Slingers really lose too way much by splashing (1d8 Div + 1d8 other type, magic damage type, knockdown bullets and 1 DC). So I'd say they deserve it. Even with a free epic feat, their AB still suffer to get to a good point.
Warchanters aren't exactly offensive powerhouses (tough, like slingers, they are useful party members). An extra buff might make them more popular. With splash they lose 5% concealment, the strongest epic, 1 spell penetration.
Both classes have decent damage output in theory (extra attacks) but their specialized class weapon makes their dps mediocre.
Besides that they have a serious need for saving throw feats, spell school/penetration feats and even base stat feats.
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Post by Paradoom on Dec 23, 2012 19:10:57 GMT
I concour on this one with deso. Splashing is a very bad thing for most of the quasiclasses, because it comes for very high costs e.g. a slinger would loose KD bullets by that. If at least the farseers ego would work on them as well.... I think it wont be asked too much to grant them the weapon spec feats as salek suggested.
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Post by Salek on Feb 9, 2013 13:26:57 GMT
Bump
Please can the Devs have a look at this?
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Post by Torin on Feb 9, 2013 13:37:45 GMT
+1 for Anarch
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 9, 2013 16:07:12 GMT
Bump Please can the Devs have a look at this? I have already. I just haven't seen anything to convince me it's a good idea - we specifically decided against this, at one point. Funky |
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Post by Yojimbo on Feb 10, 2013 4:27:13 GMT
Only thing I can see is maybe unlock EWS for Warchanters and give EWS to Slingers for going pure @ L40.
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Post by desocupado on Feb 10, 2013 10:37:52 GMT
For Slingers, the most interesting suggestion was adding Wis mod to damage (maybe a fraction like 6/8)
For chanter the suggestion was increasing feat requirement to pay for the additional Epic Weapon Specialization
It's worth noting that, as in all Quasi-classes, both Quasi-classes lose several epic bonus feats when compared to regular Bards, Clerics and Dwarf Defenders CC builds.
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