Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr)

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Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Mar 12, 2013 11:51:49 GMT

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Post by simpetar on Mar 12, 2013 11:51:49 GMT

DO NOT USE, this build is obsolete and defunct as of December 2020
- Scythe is no longer the go-for cookie cutter weapon, although still competitive: for more info see Raj's Guide to Crafting Weapons and make your pick after you read it (Maul, Heavy Flail, Greatsword, Greataxe, Falchion are good choices, Trident and Halberd deserve honorable mention); Great Fortitude takes the place of Exotic Weapon Proficiency
- Taunt is no longer desirable, as it conflicts with Persuade used by bards (and sometimes others), replaced by Craft Weapon which has a similar effect, little weaker, but more reliable and permanent

This is the barb build I am now working on in HC mode. It uses free sub (Gnoll), but there are some specifics to it that I would not recommend it for first comers (thus post it on open sub forums). Feel free to comment, and generally tear apart.

Subby: Gnoll
class progression: 18 Barb - 2 Ftr - 2 HS - 2 Ftr - 12 Barb - 3 HS - 1 Barb (I wanted to get some decent tumble bonus in 20s and Shapestrong as soon as possible)

Str: 15 / 18
Dex: 15 / 15
Con: 15 / 18
Wis: 8 / 6
Int: 14 / 12
Cha: 8 / 6

pre-epic
Blooded, Slippery Soul, (+drink Uro blood for Cleave)
Iron Will
Alertness
Power Attack
Great Cleave
Great Fortitude
WF: your choice

GWF: your choice
IC: your choice

epic
EWF: your choice
Weapon spec: your choice (ftr bonus, taken at lvl 24)
E Weapon spec: your choice (take this at lvl 24 as well, it will align with Weapon Spec)
Epic Prowess
OC: your choice
DC: your choice
Epic Reflex
ESF: Listen

Great Dex 1 (HS bonus)
ESF: Intimidate (HS Bonus)

Thundering Rage (barb bonus)
Armor Skin (barb bonus)

LLs
LSA: Tumble
Leg. Slippery Soul
Leg. Will
LWF: your choice
Leg. weapon spec: your choice
Terrifying Rage
Mighty Rage

PLs
Paragon Balance
PWF: your choice
PW spec: your choice
Environmental Adaptivity 1-3

Skills:
Discipline max
Tumble 60
Listen max
Intimidate max
Craft Weapon max
Craft Armor max
Concentration 20 (at Ftr level)
HS reqs: the rest

Notes:
1. Use Uro Blood for Cleave or MoAD blood for Alertness. If neither is available, drop Great Fortitude
2. Skills in PLs might be tricky. Option 1: divide the between Listen and Intimidate. Option 2: cross-class UMD; remember this is HC build so it will not see anything from Styg store for a loooong time.

Thanks for reading and feel free to comment!

Last Edit: Aug 10, 2022 13:38:47 GMT by simpetar

Yeah, looks like u can cs anythin non crit imm. - Big Crit

Mister Pin Veteran Posts: 218	Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Mar 31, 2013 18:03:43 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Mister Pin on Mar 31, 2013 18:03:43 GMT Hey- I like the build, and might give it a shot, tho im gonna have to wait 3 months- or make another. Thanks for your contribution!
	Last Edit: Mar 31, 2013 18:11:32 GMT by Mister Pin

buddhamind Conqueror Posts: 677	Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Apr 10, 2013 4:37:51 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by buddhamind on Apr 10, 2013 4:37:51 GMT What about stats? All str or some dex? What are stats and saves at 60, etc?
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Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Apr 11, 2013 8:10:31 GMT

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Post by simpetar on Apr 11, 2013 8:10:31 GMT

All points go to str. Stats at 60 are:

str 42
dex 16
con 22
wis 6
int 12
cha 6

plus any gear you can put your hands on (+12s, +14s, +16s).

AB at 60 with +12s is around 95, AC... well, imagine a tank in medium armor and large shield. Both AB and AC can change, if you manage to land Terrifying Rage and Taunt (both Taunt and Intimidate can hit 127 with the right gear).

Saves at 60 with +12s are:

W 60
F 61
R 60

Yeah, looks like u can cs anythin non crit imm. - Big Crit

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Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Aug 9, 2017 10:52:52 GMT

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Post by sicano on Aug 9, 2017 10:52:52 GMT

Apr 11, 2013 8:10:31 GMT simpetar said:

All points go to str. Stats at 60 are:

str 42
dex 16
con 22
wis 6
int 12
cha 6

plus any gear you can put your hands on (+12s, +14s, +16s).

AB at 60 with +12s is around 95, AC... well, imagine a tank in medium armor and large shield. Both AB and AC can change, if you manage to land Terrifying Rage and Taunt (both Taunt and Intimidate can hit 127 with the right gear).

Saves at 60 with +12s are:

W 60
F 61
R 60

Go to find this blood ... Look Like a good build when I'm alone and i have time to build a new char

simpetar Legend Posts: 1,650	Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Aug 31, 2017 11:34:54 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by simpetar on Aug 31, 2017 11:34:54 GMT Updated for use in 2017 - some new players seem to start this build, although I explicitly wrote that it is NOT meant for new players... go make yourself a caster first, guys
	Yeah, looks like u can cs anythin non crit imm. - Big Crit

Raj Exalted Untouchable Drug Dealer Posts: 2,023	Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Aug 31, 2017 12:43:37 GMT sabregirl likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Raj on Aug 31, 2017 12:43:37 GMT Fun fact I linked it to new players asking for some starter build It seems quite nub friendly yo.
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gyrokut Initiate Posts: 32	Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Dec 4, 2017 21:57:29 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by gyrokut on Dec 4, 2017 21:57:29 GMT Curious, based on some of my unintended hitting of KB generating monsters with existing tanks who have cleave, would you consider a different combination other than cleave/great cleave?

Raj Exalted Untouchable Drug Dealer Posts: 2,023	Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr) Dec 4, 2017 22:46:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Raj on Dec 4, 2017 22:46:41 GMT Those are oc/dc prerequisites so a necessary evil.
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Alpha Rage (31 Barb / 5 HS / 4 Ftr)

Post by simpetar on Mar 12, 2013 11:51:49 GMT

Post by Mister Pin on Mar 31, 2013 18:03:43 GMT

Post by buddhamind on Apr 10, 2013 4:37:51 GMT

Post by simpetar on Apr 11, 2013 8:10:31 GMT

Post by sicano on Aug 9, 2017 10:52:52 GMT

Post by simpetar on Aug 31, 2017 11:34:54 GMT

Post by Raj on Aug 31, 2017 12:43:37 GMT

Post by gyrokut on Dec 4, 2017 21:57:29 GMT

Post by Raj on Dec 4, 2017 22:46:41 GMT

Post by chainlink on Dec 5, 2017 7:53:05 GMT