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Post by mrbadexample on Sept 25, 2007 23:01:37 GMT
I promised some guys I would post this build once I got it to 6o so here I am. Race: Human Subrace: Zenythri Note: This Build should still work with most other subraces that have a WM feat or 2 and a str boost. I'll try to update it with alternate subraces asap. Stats:(subrace)STR: 15(19) DEX: 12(16 CON: 14 WIS: 14(18) INT:14 CHA:8 All stat boosts in STR Skills:Max: Dicp/Listen/Parry on all avaible lvls Dump 40 each in craft armor & Weapon 4 pts in intimidate for WM Rest as you see fit Progression:12Mnk/4Ftr/7WM/8Mnk/2Ftr/5Mnk Feats:1. Strong Soul/Expertise 3.Wep Focus: Quarterstaff 6. Dodge 9. Mobility 12. Spring Attack 13. Imp. Expertise 14. Imp. Critical: Quarterstaff 15. Blind Fight 16. Power Attack 18. Great Cleave 21. Epic Wep Focus: Quarterstaff 24. Great STR I 27. Great STR II 30. Great STR III 33. Overwelming/Devistating Critical: Quarterstaff 36. Great STR IV 38. Armor Skin 39. Epic Skill Foc: Listen 42. Leg Hardened Soul 45. Leg Weapon Focus: Quarterstaff 48. Leg Skill Foc: Listen 51. Great STR V 54. Great STR VI 57. Great STR VII 60. Epic Reflexes Saves:Fortitude: 62 Reflex: 60 WIll: 61 SR:52 Suggested Artifact: STR Suggested Pandect: Improved Disarm Any input critism/flames, heck even praise appreciatedEdit: Nov 19 thFinally got around to reworking this build to include some of suggestions made Old Version Currently Hell Taged to MIn
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Post by Raj on Sept 27, 2007 6:01:31 GMT
Those saves are wrong and are 4 over effective cap ( because as usual the sheet lies when dealing with CoT saves ): final saves are 61 fort 62 ref 60 will your pre-epic is 14 monk 6 cot, that's base 14 fort and ref, 11 will and 16 bab; I'd go 12 monk 4 cot 4 wm for 13 fort 16 reflex 10 will and 17 bab; your final saves then will change to 60 fort 64 ref 59 will, then remove luck/legendary luck for strong soul/legendary hardened soul for a final 62 fort 60 ref 61 will that looks more balanced to me ( and +1 ab, so if you're not convinced remember you effectively ''gained'' couple more great str feats, just take luck/leg luck instead of 2 more great str to end with saves more closed to your original concept ) as you have listen as class skill I'd drop couple great str for epic+legendary skill focus: listen, the conceal reduction helps more than +1 ab if you have hell game in mind edit: anyway, I don't see why you want to use cot instead of fighter, this build has no xp penality and base charisma 8 doesn't help with the low level wraith; you gain 3 reflex pre-epic but with fighter u gain one more feat, following my build progression instead of moving a feat to epic levels you take it at lvl 1 fighter then get a free epic level, namely epic reflexes for a net gain of 1 reflex ( and on non-zenythri builds that will be whirlwind ). looks like you're wearing only a +8 int item, those end stats with gear looks confusing and bit useless btw
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Post by mrbadexample on Sept 27, 2007 9:58:57 GMT
Raj, Was wondering when you'd pipe in and open your mouth on this build Anyway, yea I realised that CoT saves are off, but I wanted to get the saves good, I'll have to test out with some of your suggestions tomarrow to see how they pan out. thx for the input.
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Post by mrbadexample on Nov 19, 2007 12:07:08 GMT
Posted new version of build to include Raj suggestions for ftr instead of CoT and some other minor tweaks
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Post by uncanny on Nov 19, 2007 13:07:04 GMT
Stinger is almost made for this build too, I think. Though a bit of a hit in Wisdom, you could make this up by dropping Dodge+mobility and drinking some blood.
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Ignoring the free unarmed focus feats (which you're not using anyway), I think Stinger could fit pretty well into the build with few changes - switch some feats about, and adjust some stats, I think it would end up nearly the same - and Stinger is far easier to come by than Zenythri; so would be a possible alternative. I like it; looks like a fun build to play.
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Post by flynn01 on Nov 19, 2007 17:05:05 GMT
How is your AC? do you rely on the monk's weapon ab for attacks? Doesn't that mean you forego armor?
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Post by mrbadexample on Nov 20, 2007 11:02:54 GMT
@ uncanny You are unable to drink blood for a free feat unless you are using an open free subrace. But I do agree could would work nicely wih this build.
@flynn My Toons current AC is 117 With a burr item with deflection armor. In full UR gear it is 116. It isn't great, but survivable if you play smart. I can kick in IE to get my ac to 126.
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Post by ilovedietpepsi on Nov 24, 2007 10:57:44 GMT
damn that ac is gonna kill u especially since your wearing robes/poor immunities.
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Post by mrbadexample on Nov 24, 2007 11:24:54 GMT
my AC is low yes, but I have the empty body conceal to make up for the low AC. This is the life of a STR monk. Could other Weight in on this that have made STR monk builds?
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Post by mrbadexample on Dec 13, 2007 11:56:19 GMT
I am currently rethinking this build again to drop the WM or dev crit feats in favor of more Monk
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