Post by the1kobra on Aug 29, 2012 21:12:57 GMT
A build that I'm going to be making soon. Mostly as a thought experiment, but I wanted to post it up before I was jumping into something egregiously dumb. Since I've read a lot about the threads about how rogues are unable to keep up with the other tanks while doing their picking/searching, I decided to come up with a new style of rogue, actually going back in time and going for what once was a popular class combo. 35/4/1 Rogue/BABFULL/Monk has it's uses and certainly gets good AB/AC/Damage, but I find can often get horribly hosed by all the tough STR checks since you really need everything on that build, even CHA if you go paladin. So here's my attempt to make a character that can:
1: Be a solid tank defensively
2: Hit Hard
3: Fulfill all necessary rogue functions.
So here's what I came up with:
Kolyarut Elf
Pre-epic: 4/9/7 Rogue/Fighter/WM
Epic: 19/14/7 Rogue/Fighter/WM
16(21)/17(22)/12(14)/14(16)/8(6)/8(6)
Free: Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack
Pre-epic(7+5F): Strong Soul, Iron Will, Weapon Focus, Weapon Finesse, Expertise, WW Attack, IMPR Crit, Power Attack, Cleave, G-Cleave, Greater Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization
Epic(7+3F+4R): Epic Fortitude, EWF, Eprowess, Armor Skin, IMPR Evasion, Defensive Roll, Epic Dodge, Epic Weapon Specialization, OV Crit, DV Crit, G-STR 1, G-Dex 1-2, 1 Free Rogue Feat (I recommend Epic Skill Focus Discipline, but ESF: Search and ESF: Listen are good picks too)
Legendary(7): LWF, L-Soul, L-Will, G-Dex 4-6, Legendary Weapon Specialization
Paragon(6): Paragon Weapon Focus, Paragon Weapon Specialization, Paragon Anchoring, Paragon Soul, ?, ?
25/48/16/16/6/6 (Base stats at level 60, no demi, no arty)
AB(+12s, no arty or demi, L60): 19+10+12+8+1+20+25+2 = 97
1/4/1
2/5/2
6/3/3
41/41/41
2/19/-2
10/0/15
62/72/60
Weapon choices are rapier, katana, light pick, and kukri, all taking advantage of a high crit range, at 16-20X6 for the pick and 10-20X4 for the others. Rapier might be best because katana and kukri require exotic.
With 25 Base STR it should add some nice damage and provide a solid defense vs STR checks, double demi with the asmo belt and 16s... 49 vs STR checks there which makes you pretty solid, far more so than a dual chuck rogue. AC with epic dodge should give pretty solid standard defense.
I'm not sure what to do with paragon feats. PWF obviously but beyond that... not sure.
Elf gives the auto-searching which helps since you won't get a glint. You could go human for the extra skill and feat and 2 con, but you're 2 dex down, lose sleep immunity and auto search, not to mention 2 search from elf.
Search/DT are at: 63+50+2+9 = 124,.. 126 at double demi. If you've got a search and disarm trap aug you can drop the ESF feats, take other rogue feats. Could go 16(18) INT too... means you don't need the feats at all if you're doubleDemi.
Not exactly sure what to take for the free feat... I suppose I could shuffle things around for epic weapon specialization, give a bit more damage.
Comments? Criticisms? I'm gonna make this soon, not sure what I'll take for all of the choices. Hmm....
1: Be a solid tank defensively
2: Hit Hard
3: Fulfill all necessary rogue functions.
So here's what I came up with:
Kolyarut Elf
Pre-epic: 4/9/7 Rogue/Fighter/WM
Epic: 19/14/7 Rogue/Fighter/WM
16(21)/17(22)/12(14)/14(16)/8(6)/8(6)
Free: Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack
Pre-epic(7+5F): Strong Soul, Iron Will, Weapon Focus, Weapon Finesse, Expertise, WW Attack, IMPR Crit, Power Attack, Cleave, G-Cleave, Greater Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization
Epic(7+3F+4R): Epic Fortitude, EWF, Eprowess, Armor Skin, IMPR Evasion, Defensive Roll, Epic Dodge, Epic Weapon Specialization, OV Crit, DV Crit, G-STR 1, G-Dex 1-2, 1 Free Rogue Feat (I recommend Epic Skill Focus Discipline, but ESF: Search and ESF: Listen are good picks too)
Legendary(7): LWF, L-Soul, L-Will, G-Dex 4-6, Legendary Weapon Specialization
Paragon(6): Paragon Weapon Focus, Paragon Weapon Specialization, Paragon Anchoring, Paragon Soul, ?, ?
25/48/16/16/6/6 (Base stats at level 60, no demi, no arty)
AB(+12s, no arty or demi, L60): 19+10+12+8+1+20+25+2 = 97
1/4/1
2/5/2
6/3/3
41/41/41
2/19/-2
10/0/15
62/72/60
Weapon choices are rapier, katana, light pick, and kukri, all taking advantage of a high crit range, at 16-20X6 for the pick and 10-20X4 for the others. Rapier might be best because katana and kukri require exotic.
With 25 Base STR it should add some nice damage and provide a solid defense vs STR checks, double demi with the asmo belt and 16s... 49 vs STR checks there which makes you pretty solid, far more so than a dual chuck rogue. AC with epic dodge should give pretty solid standard defense.
I'm not sure what to do with paragon feats. PWF obviously but beyond that... not sure.
Elf gives the auto-searching which helps since you won't get a glint. You could go human for the extra skill and feat and 2 con, but you're 2 dex down, lose sleep immunity and auto search, not to mention 2 search from elf.
Search/DT are at: 63+50+2+9 = 124,.. 126 at double demi. If you've got a search and disarm trap aug you can drop the ESF feats, take other rogue feats. Could go 16(18) INT too... means you don't need the feats at all if you're doubleDemi.
Not exactly sure what to take for the free feat... I suppose I could shuffle things around for epic weapon specialization, give a bit more damage.
Comments? Criticisms? I'm gonna make this soon, not sure what I'll take for all of the choices. Hmm....