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Post by Acaos on May 19, 2009 18:43:25 GMT
The item which grants you the Protean subrace allows you to make a single Protean character (this means you must have one Protean-granter for each Protean you wish to make; it is not reusable like other subraces). After creating a Protean, you will be able to select the subrace's abilities. Reincarnating a Protean does not allow you to re-morph the abilities, but does allow you to alter the character's build. Abilities: You may select from one of the below ability spreads: - +6, +4
- +6, +4, +2, -2
- +4, +4, +4
- +4, +4, +4, +2, -2
- +4, +4, +2, +2
Packages: Select one of the following: - One package from List A and one package from List D
- One package from List B and one package from List C
- One package from List C and two packages from List D
- Three packages from List D
List A- Great Ability I/II in a single ability
List B- SF/GSF in a single school
- Spell Penetration / Greater Spell Penetration
- WF/EWF with a single weapon
- Dodge/Mobility
- Lingering Song / Lasting Inspiration
- Blooded
- Bullheaded
List C- Spring Attack
- ESF with a single skill
- Alertness
- Armor Skin
- One pre-epic save feat
- Power Attack
- One survival ability (e.g. levitation/water breathing)
List D- +10 to a single skill at level 1 (not including UMD, Perform, or Animal Empathy; may not select Lore if your subrace has both Dexterity and Strength bonuses)
- Custom tail
- Custom wings
Acaos
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Post by simpetar on May 19, 2009 18:53:28 GMT
I just have to say: WOW!!! When is this update coming?
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Post by Acaos on May 19, 2009 18:55:23 GMT
It's just an idea, not reviewed by the DM team or anything. I thought it up and figured I'd post it.
Acaos
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Post by Egg on May 19, 2009 19:06:11 GMT
Nice idea, this could also be a way of raising the value of 'subraces'.
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Post by fasut on May 19, 2009 19:21:51 GMT
in list d should be choice for your size! if your char is small, medium or large
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Post by Avissar on May 19, 2009 19:30:28 GMT
WOW, that is AWESOME!! I really like the ability to select custom wings!!!!
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Post by jonuhey on May 19, 2009 19:40:50 GMT
This is very interesting With a subrace like this, even the poor chanters would have some love, Str assassins, bard tanks, theurges and a few more would be happy with this I guess. The only problem I can see (if its really a problem) is that subraces like Rilmani, Half-Celestial and Rad-Genasi would lose a bit of value. But nothing that would hurt too much. And I think such subrace would be very hard to get, probably a dream just like a PW ring is (does this ring really exist? ) Anyway, hope this subrace find its way into the game.
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Post by Yojimbo on May 19, 2009 19:46:45 GMT
Very interesting not sure I fully understand yet what exactly this is will read it many times over later probly to figure what you are saying.
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Post by MightyKhan on May 19, 2009 19:50:08 GMT
craft yer own BUR race!
kewl =)
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Post by pete on May 19, 2009 19:58:16 GMT
this looks great especially if it would allow the use of gold dragon wings like the idea of wings and tail having a price, you can max your toon or look cool reminds me of a suggestion for priceless subbies in an old thread call it paragon, hell has enough of those, time for some pay back
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Post by Yojimbo on May 19, 2009 20:04:00 GMT
One thing would it be a better idea to maybe break down feats into Tiers where List A would be 2 Feats from 1st Tiers List B 2 Feats from 2nd Tier and List C 1 Feat from 3rd Tier. Since I think Levitation and Water Breathing don't show as feats they could just be additional options on List C and then I don't think I would change List D.
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Post by StrykerOfChaos on May 19, 2009 20:05:09 GMT
I'd like the option to choose size, as the large size sub options are very limited at the moment..and Im really looking forward to some Huge size weapons ^_^
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Post by Yojimbo on May 19, 2009 20:08:12 GMT
I'd like the option to choose size, as the large size sub options are very limited at the moment..and Im really looking forward to some Huge size weapons ^_^ Yes I omited that I agree adding size to one of the list would be good as that was a factor for choosing race in my initial WM build. I would maybe add size change to Large on List C or D though since it may need a model change perhaps create a set of models that would be Large and selectable via the PC Scry Device with a defualt set to something simple but appropiate. I also think add to one of the List C or higher damage type immunities limiting Physical and Exotic to lower or on a higher Tier then Elemental.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 22:28:26 GMT
I like the concept. This is a template for a semi-universal BUR race.
Part of the value and appeal of the BUR race comes in their scarcity and the fact that to do some things you need just the right one.
I think this would be overpowered as a BUR race book drop but I do not claim to be an expert on balance.
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Post by dodrudon on May 20, 2009 0:07:07 GMT
I like it but I dislike it too. We wouldn't ever need new subraces, just collect these tokens, although normal subraces do have the benefit of being reusable. In fact, new subraces would compete with this one in loot drop chances...
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