Post by chainlink on May 2, 2007 8:37:08 GMT
Favoured of Gruumsh 30 AS/6 FTR/4 SD
Built on a Half-Orc base
Half-Orcs are the short-tempered and sullen result of human and orc pairings. They would rather act than ponder and would rather fight than argue. They love simple pleasures, such as feasting, boasting, and wild dancing. They are an asset at the right sort of party, but not at the duchess's grand ball. Half-orcs are as tall as humans but their brutish features betray their lineage. They also regard scars as tokens of pride and things of beauty. They rarely reach 75 years in age.
Orcish ability adjustments: +2 Str, -2 Int, -2 Cha
HG Specific Free Feats Toughness & Blooded
then
"One-Eyed" (secret UltraRare subrace) - requires Half-Orc
STR +2, CON +3, WIS +3, CHA -2, free feat: Cleave, +10 hide, +10 move silently, +10 intimidate
Stats
STR 20 (22)
DEX 14
CON 11 (14)
INT 10
WIS 9 (12)
CHA 6 (4)
All Stat Points to Str
Level progression
1 Ftr Luck of Heroes, Dodge
2 Assassin
3 Assassin Lightning Reflexes
4 Assassin
5 Assassin
6 Assassin Great Fortitude
7 Assassin
8 Assassin
9 Assassin Iron Will
10 Assassin
11 Assassin
12 Ftr Mobility, Spring Attack
13 SD
14 SD
15 SD Improved Critical Scimitar
16 SD
17 Ftr
18 Ftr Weapon Focus Scimitar, Blind Fight
19 Ftr
20 Ftr Spring Attack, Discipline dump
21 Assassin Armor Skin
22 Assassin
23 Assassin
24 Assassin Epic Weapon Focus Scimitar
25 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength I)
26 Assassin
27 Assassin Epic Prowess
29 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength II)
30 Assassin Great Strength III
31 Assassin
32 Assassin
33 Assassin Great Strength IV, Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength V)
34 Assassin
35 Assassin
36 Assassin Great Strength VI
37 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength VII)
38 Assassin
39 Assassin Great Strength VIII
40 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength IX)
41 LL
42 LL LL Luck of Heroes
43 LL
44 LL
45 LL LL Will
46 LL
47 LL
48 LL LL Fortitude
49 LL
50 LL
51 LL ESF Discipline
52 LL
53 LL
54 LL LL Reflex
55 LL
56 LL
57 LL Great Strength X
58 LL
59 LL
60 LL LL WF Scimitar
Base Str of 52 by level 60
Max Str of 58 (+12 from gear) = 70 after double demi and artifact use giving you a mortal strike dc of 58 (that's weird it matches your Str )
Skills
Max Tumble (until level 57), UMD, Hide & Discipline on Ftr levels then add to discipline when possible in LL.
Saves @60 (all bonuses included)
Fortitude 65
Will 61
Reflex 69
Pros
Mortal Strike at max potential for this build
Good saves
Evasion so you generally take half or no damage from spells/effects with a reflex save
15D6 Death Attack
Ok ab
Ok ac
Assassin critical hit damage boosts
Cons
Opening stuff is not an option
I've used all but three of the save feats which seems like a waste
Pro or Con
Cleave - Depends on your opinion, cleave gives you a free attack which if you can Mortal Strike is generally a good thing but it also randomly attacks an enemy which can be a bad thing. Personally I like it though
Notes:
Should be a damage output beast.
I welcome suggestions for an alternate feat to Spring Attack but your pre-epic choices are limited.
The feat order is not that critical once you have Dodge and Mobility to access SD so feel free to mess around with them.
By my calculations you should have a maximum boosted discipline of 119 (double demi)
As for the Half-Orc age comment, I intend to reach more than 75 years in age and have a huge pile of bodies at my feet by the time I do
THIS IS NOT AN OPENER it just hurts stuff!
4/5/07 Big build changes as I decided after thinking about it that I might as well max my Dev Crit dc as the discipline should be high enough to prevent trouble.
It would be possible to go monk or rogue instead of SD as the only feat you really want is Evasion, however both of these would incur a 20% exp penalty and the extra feats and skills would not seem to be useful due to wearing heavy armor and the low Int of this build. You could only take two SD levels and gain another Ftr bonus feat although this would drop your saves slightly and I'm really struggling to think of another pre-epic feat with any value to this build?
6/7/07 Swapped out Epic Will @ 60 for LL WF Scimitar giving you a much needed +3 ab at the cost of a 61 Will save which should be OK.
3/10/07 Swapped out concentration for hide as per my rebuild.
29/11/07 Minor edits.
1/5/08 Added in new feats due to Half-Orc racial changes, my assassin is now at demi x4 and waiting on a Nessus for x5 run so I'd guess this would count as a successful build.
19/5/08 Minor tweaks.
Built on a Half-Orc base
Half-Orcs are the short-tempered and sullen result of human and orc pairings. They would rather act than ponder and would rather fight than argue. They love simple pleasures, such as feasting, boasting, and wild dancing. They are an asset at the right sort of party, but not at the duchess's grand ball. Half-orcs are as tall as humans but their brutish features betray their lineage. They also regard scars as tokens of pride and things of beauty. They rarely reach 75 years in age.
Orcish ability adjustments: +2 Str, -2 Int, -2 Cha
HG Specific Free Feats Toughness & Blooded
then
"One-Eyed" (secret UltraRare subrace) - requires Half-Orc
STR +2, CON +3, WIS +3, CHA -2, free feat: Cleave, +10 hide, +10 move silently, +10 intimidate
Stats
STR 20 (22)
DEX 14
CON 11 (14)
INT 10
WIS 9 (12)
CHA 6 (4)
All Stat Points to Str
Level progression
1 Ftr Luck of Heroes, Dodge
2 Assassin
3 Assassin Lightning Reflexes
4 Assassin
5 Assassin
6 Assassin Great Fortitude
7 Assassin
8 Assassin
9 Assassin Iron Will
10 Assassin
11 Assassin
12 Ftr Mobility, Spring Attack
13 SD
14 SD
15 SD Improved Critical Scimitar
16 SD
17 Ftr
18 Ftr Weapon Focus Scimitar, Blind Fight
19 Ftr
20 Ftr Spring Attack, Discipline dump
21 Assassin Armor Skin
22 Assassin
23 Assassin
24 Assassin Epic Weapon Focus Scimitar
25 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength I)
26 Assassin
27 Assassin Epic Prowess
29 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength II)
30 Assassin Great Strength III
31 Assassin
32 Assassin
33 Assassin Great Strength IV, Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength V)
34 Assassin
35 Assassin
36 Assassin Great Strength VI
37 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength VII)
38 Assassin
39 Assassin Great Strength VIII
40 Assassin Epic Reflex (swap for Great Strength IX)
41 LL
42 LL LL Luck of Heroes
43 LL
44 LL
45 LL LL Will
46 LL
47 LL
48 LL LL Fortitude
49 LL
50 LL
51 LL ESF Discipline
52 LL
53 LL
54 LL LL Reflex
55 LL
56 LL
57 LL Great Strength X
58 LL
59 LL
60 LL LL WF Scimitar
Base Str of 52 by level 60
Max Str of 58 (+12 from gear) = 70 after double demi and artifact use giving you a mortal strike dc of 58 (that's weird it matches your Str )
Skills
Max Tumble (until level 57), UMD, Hide & Discipline on Ftr levels then add to discipline when possible in LL.
Saves @60 (all bonuses included)
Fortitude 65
Will 61
Reflex 69
Pros
Mortal Strike at max potential for this build
Good saves
Evasion so you generally take half or no damage from spells/effects with a reflex save
15D6 Death Attack
Ok ab
Ok ac
Assassin critical hit damage boosts
Cons
Opening stuff is not an option
I've used all but three of the save feats which seems like a waste
Pro or Con
Cleave - Depends on your opinion, cleave gives you a free attack which if you can Mortal Strike is generally a good thing but it also randomly attacks an enemy which can be a bad thing. Personally I like it though
Notes:
Should be a damage output beast.
I welcome suggestions for an alternate feat to Spring Attack but your pre-epic choices are limited.
The feat order is not that critical once you have Dodge and Mobility to access SD so feel free to mess around with them.
By my calculations you should have a maximum boosted discipline of 119 (double demi)
As for the Half-Orc age comment, I intend to reach more than 75 years in age and have a huge pile of bodies at my feet by the time I do
THIS IS NOT AN OPENER it just hurts stuff!
4/5/07 Big build changes as I decided after thinking about it that I might as well max my Dev Crit dc as the discipline should be high enough to prevent trouble.
It would be possible to go monk or rogue instead of SD as the only feat you really want is Evasion, however both of these would incur a 20% exp penalty and the extra feats and skills would not seem to be useful due to wearing heavy armor and the low Int of this build. You could only take two SD levels and gain another Ftr bonus feat although this would drop your saves slightly and I'm really struggling to think of another pre-epic feat with any value to this build?
6/7/07 Swapped out Epic Will @ 60 for LL WF Scimitar giving you a much needed +3 ab at the cost of a 61 Will save which should be OK.
3/10/07 Swapped out concentration for hide as per my rebuild.
29/11/07 Minor edits.
1/5/08 Added in new feats due to Half-Orc racial changes, my assassin is now at demi x4 and waiting on a Nessus for x5 run so I'd guess this would count as a successful build.
19/5/08 Minor tweaks.