Post by unwitting1 on Feb 20, 2008 7:20:11 GMT
Level Order
1 Bard
7 RDD
1 Bard
10 Shadowdancer
1 Bard
40 Shadowdancer
Subrace - Salamander (Dodge, Mobility, Armor Skin, +6 Str,+2 Dex, +2 Int, +8 lore, +25% fire immunity)
Race: – Elf (+2 Dex, -2 Con)
Stats: Starting (Salamander) [40 Unbuffed] {60 Buffed}
Str - 17 (23) [39] {64} (includes +4 from RDD)
Dex - 12 (14) [16] {28}
Con - 12 (12) [14] {26} (includes +2 from RDD)
Wis - 8 (8) [8] {20}
Int - 14 (16) [16] {28}
Cha - 11 (11) [11] {23}
When leveling, put all points in Strength, and don’t forget to bring Hide to 10, MS to 8, and Tumble to 5 at 10th level when you take the last bard level.
Feats
Character Formation
Bull-Headed
General
Lvl 3 – Weapon Focus
Lvl 6 – Power Attack
Lvl 9 – Cleave
Lvl 12 – Improved Critical
Lvl 15 – Great Cleave
Lvl 18 – Great Fortitude
Lvl 21 – Epic Prowess
Lvl 23 (SD bonus) – ESF Listen
Lvl 24 – Epic Weapon Focus
Lvl 26 (SD bonus) – ESF Search
Lvl 27 – Overwhelming Critical
Lvl 29 (SD bonus) – Epic Shadowlord
Lvl 30 – Devastating Critical
Lvl 32 (SD bonus) – Epic Reflexes (converted to Dex)
Lvl 33 – Great Strength I
Lvl 35 (SD bonus) – Epic Reflexes (converted to Dex again)
Lvl 36 – Great Strength II
Lvl 38 (SD bonus) - Epic Reflexes
Lvl 39 – Epic Will
7 Legendary
1) Legendary Skill Affinity: Discipline
2) Legendary Fortitude
3) Legendary Weapon Focus
4) Legendary Skill Focus: Discipline
5) Great Strength III
6) Great Strength IV
7) Great Strength V
Skills
534 Points Total = 351 (L40) + 3 (Retroactive at 41 for Bard levels) + 180 (LL)
1) 50 Tumble
2) 63 Search
3) 63 Listen
4) 63 Discipline (23 at bard lvl 20, the rest starting at 41)
5) 63 Craft Armor (not until legendary levels)
6) 63 Craft Weapon (not until legendary levels)
7) 60 Parry (at a total cost of 127 for 23 [from lvl 20] + 34 [17*2 for elf pre-40 skill] + 30 [10*3 for elf pre 50 skill] + 40 [10*4 for elf 50+ ranks])
8) 32 UMD (23 at bard lvl 20, the rest at lvl 41 for a cost of 47 [9*2 to reach 30 for elf pre-40 skill)
1 skill point remains that can't really go anywhere.
Final AC
131 = 10 (base) + 9 (Dex) + 2 (RDD) + 10 (Tumble) + 19 (girded medium armor) + 4 (medium base AC) + 17 (defl) + 17 (nat) + 20 (dodge) + 19 (girded shield) + 2 (Armor Skin) + 2 (Craft Armor with buffs)
Final AB
93 = 25 (L40) + 12 (LBAB) + 1 (WF) + 2 (EWF) + 1 (EP) + 3 (LWF) + 27 (Str) + 20 (buffs, assuming IoF, prayer, & bless) + 2 (Craft Weapon with buffs)
Saves: @40 (@60) [ buffed]
Fort: 23 (34) [60]
Refl: 29 (34) [60]
Will: 26 (31) [57]
The idea behind this build was to attempt a strength-based shadowdancer, which I have never seen in play. Considering this requires salamander to be possible, I recognize that it isn’t exactly a practical build.
With a reasonable AB and AC, 20/+15 damage reduction, 60% concealment, improved evasion, automatic 25% fire resistance, 40% absolute cold, and unlimited ethereality, I thought it might be fun to play one on the front lines…act as the primary puller and be able to suss out secret loot in the hells while simply walking by (via elven keen senses). As this is my first build, I’m fully aware I probably made a few glaring oversights and/or miscalculations. Regarding the color of the dragon disciple, I am leaning towards white. As far as the sub-60 will save goes, I'm relying on slippery mind to compensate for that.
Please let me know what you think. The build is completely untested.
edit: Corrected omission of LSA: Discipline and LSF: Discipline; adjusted medium armor base AC. Converted one level of RDD to bard for skill point dump at lvl 20 to squeeze in UMD.
1 Bard
7 RDD
1 Bard
10 Shadowdancer
1 Bard
40 Shadowdancer
Subrace - Salamander (Dodge, Mobility, Armor Skin, +6 Str,+2 Dex, +2 Int, +8 lore, +25% fire immunity)
Race: – Elf (+2 Dex, -2 Con)
Stats: Starting (Salamander) [40 Unbuffed] {60 Buffed}
Str - 17 (23) [39] {64} (includes +4 from RDD)
Dex - 12 (14) [16] {28}
Con - 12 (12) [14] {26} (includes +2 from RDD)
Wis - 8 (8) [8] {20}
Int - 14 (16) [16] {28}
Cha - 11 (11) [11] {23}
When leveling, put all points in Strength, and don’t forget to bring Hide to 10, MS to 8, and Tumble to 5 at 10th level when you take the last bard level.
Feats
Character Formation
Bull-Headed
General
Lvl 3 – Weapon Focus
Lvl 6 – Power Attack
Lvl 9 – Cleave
Lvl 12 – Improved Critical
Lvl 15 – Great Cleave
Lvl 18 – Great Fortitude
Lvl 21 – Epic Prowess
Lvl 23 (SD bonus) – ESF Listen
Lvl 24 – Epic Weapon Focus
Lvl 26 (SD bonus) – ESF Search
Lvl 27 – Overwhelming Critical
Lvl 29 (SD bonus) – Epic Shadowlord
Lvl 30 – Devastating Critical
Lvl 32 (SD bonus) – Epic Reflexes (converted to Dex)
Lvl 33 – Great Strength I
Lvl 35 (SD bonus) – Epic Reflexes (converted to Dex again)
Lvl 36 – Great Strength II
Lvl 38 (SD bonus) - Epic Reflexes
Lvl 39 – Epic Will
7 Legendary
1) Legendary Skill Affinity: Discipline
2) Legendary Fortitude
3) Legendary Weapon Focus
4) Legendary Skill Focus: Discipline
5) Great Strength III
6) Great Strength IV
7) Great Strength V
Skills
534 Points Total = 351 (L40) + 3 (Retroactive at 41 for Bard levels) + 180 (LL)
1) 50 Tumble
2) 63 Search
3) 63 Listen
4) 63 Discipline (23 at bard lvl 20, the rest starting at 41)
5) 63 Craft Armor (not until legendary levels)
6) 63 Craft Weapon (not until legendary levels)
7) 60 Parry (at a total cost of 127 for 23 [from lvl 20] + 34 [17*2 for elf pre-40 skill] + 30 [10*3 for elf pre 50 skill] + 40 [10*4 for elf 50+ ranks])
8) 32 UMD (23 at bard lvl 20, the rest at lvl 41 for a cost of 47 [9*2 to reach 30 for elf pre-40 skill)
1 skill point remains that can't really go anywhere.
Final AC
131 = 10 (base) + 9 (Dex) + 2 (RDD) + 10 (Tumble) + 19 (girded medium armor) + 4 (medium base AC) + 17 (defl) + 17 (nat) + 20 (dodge) + 19 (girded shield) + 2 (Armor Skin) + 2 (Craft Armor with buffs)
Final AB
93 = 25 (L40) + 12 (LBAB) + 1 (WF) + 2 (EWF) + 1 (EP) + 3 (LWF) + 27 (Str) + 20 (buffs, assuming IoF, prayer, & bless) + 2 (Craft Weapon with buffs)
Saves: @40 (@60) [ buffed]
Fort: 23 (34) [60]
Refl: 29 (34) [60]
Will: 26 (31) [57]
The idea behind this build was to attempt a strength-based shadowdancer, which I have never seen in play. Considering this requires salamander to be possible, I recognize that it isn’t exactly a practical build.
With a reasonable AB and AC, 20/+15 damage reduction, 60% concealment, improved evasion, automatic 25% fire resistance, 40% absolute cold, and unlimited ethereality, I thought it might be fun to play one on the front lines…act as the primary puller and be able to suss out secret loot in the hells while simply walking by (via elven keen senses). As this is my first build, I’m fully aware I probably made a few glaring oversights and/or miscalculations. Regarding the color of the dragon disciple, I am leaning towards white. As far as the sub-60 will save goes, I'm relying on slippery mind to compensate for that.
Please let me know what you think. The build is completely untested.
edit: Corrected omission of LSA: Discipline and LSF: Discipline; adjusted medium armor base AC. Converted one level of RDD to bard for skill point dump at lvl 20 to squeeze in UMD.
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...which has been corrected. To keep the strength score even, I've also knocked off an additional strength feat, so now the choice is between LSF: Discipline and Blindfight.