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Post by HoV on Oct 17, 2011 3:32:20 GMT
I don't feel like this belongs in the open subrace builds because it is extremely feat tight and relies on the uroboros blood for the cleave feat to free up a feat for AB and dev crit feats. Let me know what you all think:
Half-Elf: Drey STR: 16 DEX: 15 CON: 13 WIS: 8 INT: 14 CHA: 9
8fighter, 2 bg, 30 wm
max discipline, listen levels 1-40 max discipline, listen, craft weapon, 60 tumble, rest to CA at 41-60
USE UROBOROS BLOOD FOR CLEAVE!!!!
01: Blooded, WF 02: Dodge 03: Mobility 04: Expertise 06: Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack 08: Power Attack 09: Great Cleave 12: GWF 15: Improved Critical (WF) 18: Iron Will 21: Great STR 1 23: EWF 24: Great STR 2 26: Epic Prowess 27: Great STR 3 29: Armor Skin 30: Great STR 4 32: Overwhelming Critical 33: Great STR 5 35: Devastating Critical 36: Great STR 6 38: Epic Toughness 1 39: Great STR 7
42: LSA: Tumble 45: Disarm 48: Improved Disarm 51: LWF 54: LL Will 57: Great STR 8 60: Great STR 9
What do you guys think? 112 AB with 14 items, not sure on AC would like it calculated, Thanks!
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Post by Yojimbo on Oct 17, 2011 13:16:58 GMT
Average STR AC is 121-125 IIRC I also believe WM might be getting a few changes in it's feats so you might can replace Epic Toughness I with something else. I would say for one with out the blood they could drops GWF and shuffle feats to pick up Cleave.
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Post by HoV on Oct 17, 2011 14:50:11 GMT
GWF is one point of AB, I wouldn't like to lose any, nor have anyone else lose some AB on a disarmer build. Would cripple this build further, as I could manage a 115-117 AB build with a +5 or +6 race.
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Post by HoV on Oct 17, 2011 15:02:46 GMT
Gonna calculate AC here, let me know if I made any mistakes:
10 (base) 9 (dex) 18 (bur med armor) 5 (base armor) 17 (deflection) 20 (dodge) 20 (natural SH) 17 (med shield) 2 (armor skin) 12 (tumble) 2 (craft armor) ________________ 132 (final, pre-demi) 3 (asmo cloak) ________________ 135 (demi)
Any mistakes? HoV
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Post by Yojimbo on Oct 17, 2011 16:02:38 GMT
BUR Medium armor is +17 Armor AC but you also get 4 or 5 AC from the armor itself it lookes like shield your on point at 17 total so you are looking at 132-133 in top end gear and with GotF you can hit 136-137. My original numbers were figuring full plate and tower shield but do not include Asmo Artis or GotF.
I only suggest dropping GWF as a means to pick up cleave should someone desire to build this but doesn't have the blood to get cleave or if WM bonus feats change to allow you to take it or other feats you are taking as non-bonus feats.
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Post by HoV on Oct 17, 2011 16:50:37 GMT
Fixed! Thanks! Now it looks more attractive
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Post by darc on Dec 1, 2011 21:55:06 GMT
Is 112 AB enough for disarming? If not then you're better off with save feats. Your current saves are:
Fort 54 = 10(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+7(con mod)+20(items)+0(feats)+5(Black Guard bonus) Ref 58 = 10(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+8(dex mod)+20(items)+0(feats)+5(Black Guard bonus) Will 57 = 6(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+5(wis mod)+20(items)+9(feats)+5(Black Guard bonus)
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