Post by bort on Nov 19, 2007 10:07:10 GMT
Here's a DD build i'm planning to go visit Asmo with.
Your thoughts please
Subraces:
"Planewalker" (secret UltraRare)
- STR -2, DEX +2, CON +2, INT +2, 5% immune to acid, cold, electrical, fire, and sonic, breathes water, able to walk on quicksand, speaks Abyssal, speaks Celestial, speaks Infernal
"Battlerager" (secret UltraRare)
- STR +4, CON +3, INT -2, CHA -3, +5 intimidate, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Toughness
Battlerager version varies from PW version by +1 AB, +60 hitpoints, -1 reflex and will save and gets Improved Expertise
"Dwarf - Derrzagon"
- DEX +2, INT +2, WIS -2, CHR -2, SR18, free feats: Blind Fight & Keen Sense, resist acid 5/- resist fire 5/-, speaks Undercommon
Derrzagon version varies from PW version by +1 AB, free blind fight, -60 hit points, -2 fort save, -1 reflex save and -2 will save (which isn't going to break the build) and can get Improved Expertise.
Alignment:
Lawful Good
Progression:
8 fighter
2 pal (= innate fear immunity/saves boost- provided you retain Good alignment)
30 DD
Starting Stats: (after subrace mods)
all stat increases into STR
Having a base Dexterity score of 14 allows for a Dex mod. of 8 with +12 gear, giving the full +8 AC bonus with chain/breastplate armors such as Mail of Cruril Norhorn and Ssithrak Skirmisher Scale - which allows for an overall higher AC than using Heavy armors.
Skills:
Craft Armor
Listen
Discipline
Tumble (after LSA tumble - level 43 onwards)
Skill points are tight, so I'd suggest taking Craft Armor and Listen to 40 in Epic levels and maxing Discipline, then putting more points into Craft Armor and Listen only after dumping points into Tumble at level 43 and only after putting the maximum number of possible points into Discipline and Tumble each legendary level.
Feats: "(bonus)" denotes fighter bonus feat, "(level) b." denotes DD epic bonus feat
The table below shows pre-epic feat routes for Planewalker, Battlerager, Derrzagon (taking advantage of free Dodge feat from dragon blood) and Derrzagon (not using dragon blood).
21. Great STR 1
24. Great STR 2
24 b. Epic Weapon Focus
27. Great STR 3
28 b. Epic Prowess
30. Great STR 4
32 b. Armor Skin
33. Great STR 5
36. Great STR 6
36 b. Overwhelming Crit
39. Great STR 7
40 b. Devastating Crit
42. Legendary Skill Affinity Tumble
45. Legendary Weapon Focus
48. Great STR 8
51. Great STR 9
54. Great STR 10
57. Legendary Reflexes
60. Legendary Will
Ending Stats: (gear/modifier)
AC:
10
+ 5 Medium Armor : 15
+ 17 UR Medium Armor bonus : 32
+ 8 DEX bonus : 40
+ 3 Tower Shield : 43
+ 16 Pentavite Shield bonus : 59
+ 20 (+16 boots/haste dodge bonus) : 79
+ 20 DD natural AC : 99
+ 20 Asmodeus Artifact with Deflection AC (helm, cloak, gloves or belt) : 119
+ 2 Armor Skin : 121
+ 12 Tumble AC bonus : 133
+ 4 Girding of the Faithful : 137
+ 1/2 craft armor : 138-139
Saves: (maxed, with +12 cha, con, dex and wis gear and Good alignment)
AB:
Planewalker: 96 (20 pre-epic bab +10 epic bab +24 str mod +1 wf +2 ewf +3 lwf +1 prowess +15 lbab +20 buffs)
Battlerager/Derrzagon: 97 (20 pre-epic bab +10 epic bab +25 str mod +1 wf +2 ewf +3 lwf +1 prowess +15 lbab +20 buffs)
Crit range with bastard sword (with keen) is 14-20x4
Your thoughts please
Subraces:
"Planewalker" (secret UltraRare)
- STR -2, DEX +2, CON +2, INT +2, 5% immune to acid, cold, electrical, fire, and sonic, breathes water, able to walk on quicksand, speaks Abyssal, speaks Celestial, speaks Infernal
"Battlerager" (secret UltraRare)
- STR +4, CON +3, INT -2, CHA -3, +5 intimidate, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Toughness
Battlerager version varies from PW version by +1 AB, +60 hitpoints, -1 reflex and will save and gets Improved Expertise
"Dwarf - Derrzagon"
- DEX +2, INT +2, WIS -2, CHR -2, SR18, free feats: Blind Fight & Keen Sense, resist acid 5/- resist fire 5/-, speaks Undercommon
Derrzagon version varies from PW version by +1 AB, free blind fight, -60 hit points, -2 fort save, -1 reflex save and -2 will save (which isn't going to break the build) and can get Improved Expertise.
Alignment:
Lawful Good
Progression:
8 fighter
2 pal (= innate fear immunity/saves boost- provided you retain Good alignment)
30 DD
Starting Stats: (after subrace mods)
Planewalker | Battlerager | Derrzagon |
STR 18(16) DEX 12(14) CON 16(18) INT 12(14) WIS 8 (8) CHA 6 (6) | STR 14(18) DEX 14(14) CON 17(20) INT 16(14) WIS 8(6) CHA 6(3) | STR 18(18) DEX 12(14) CON 16(16) INT 12(14) WIS 8(6) CHA 6(4) |
all stat increases into STR
Having a base Dexterity score of 14 allows for a Dex mod. of 8 with +12 gear, giving the full +8 AC bonus with chain/breastplate armors such as Mail of Cruril Norhorn and Ssithrak Skirmisher Scale - which allows for an overall higher AC than using Heavy armors.
Skills:
Craft Armor
Listen
Discipline
Tumble (after LSA tumble - level 43 onwards)
Skill points are tight, so I'd suggest taking Craft Armor and Listen to 40 in Epic levels and maxing Discipline, then putting more points into Craft Armor and Listen only after dumping points into Tumble at level 43 and only after putting the maximum number of possible points into Discipline and Tumble each legendary level.
Feats: "(bonus)" denotes fighter bonus feat, "(level) b." denotes DD epic bonus feat
The table below shows pre-epic feat routes for Planewalker, Battlerager, Derrzagon (taking advantage of free Dodge feat from dragon blood) and Derrzagon (not using dragon blood).
Planewalker | Battlerager | Derrzagon (using dragon blood) | Derrzagon (not using dragon blood) |
1. Blooded (for LSA tumble), weapon prof exotic(bonus) 2. Dodge(bonus) 3. Toughness 4. Blind Fight(bonus) 6. Lightning Reflexes, Weapon Focus Bastard Sword (bonus) 8. Improved Critical Bastard Sword (bonus) 9. Iron Will 12. Power Attack 15. Cleave 18. Great Cleave | 1. Blooded (for LSA tumble), weapon prof exotic(bonus) 2. Expertise(bonus) 3. Improved Expertise 4. Blind Fight(bonus) 6. Lightning Reflexes, Weapon Focus Bastard Sword (bonus) 8. Improved Critical Bastard Sword (bonus) 9. Iron Will 12. Power Attack 15. Cleave 18. Great Cleave | 1. Blooded (for LSA tumble), weapon prof exotic(bonus) 2. Expertise(bonus) 3. Toughness 4. Improved Expertise(bonus) 6. Lightning Reflexes, Weapon Focus Bastard Sword (bonus) 8. Improved Critical Bastard Sword (bonus) 9. Iron Will 12. Power Attack 15. Cleave 18. Great Cleave | 1. Blooded (for LSA tumble), weapon prof exotic(bonus) 2. Dodge(bonus) 3. Toughness 4. Expertise(bonus) 6. Lightning Reflexes, Weapon Focus Bastard Sword (bonus) 8. Improved Critical Bastard Sword (bonus) 9. Iron Will 12. Power Attack 15. Cleave 18. Great Cleave |
21. Great STR 1
24. Great STR 2
24 b. Epic Weapon Focus
27. Great STR 3
28 b. Epic Prowess
30. Great STR 4
32 b. Armor Skin
33. Great STR 5
36. Great STR 6
36 b. Overwhelming Crit
39. Great STR 7
40 b. Devastating Crit
42. Legendary Skill Affinity Tumble
45. Legendary Weapon Focus
48. Great STR 8
51. Great STR 9
54. Great STR 10
57. Legendary Reflexes
60. Legendary Will
Ending Stats: (gear/modifier)
Planewalker | Battlerager | Derrzagon |
STR 46(58/24) DEX 14(26/8) CON 18(30/10) INT 14 WIS 8 (20/5) CHA 6 (18/4) | STR 48(60/25) DEX 14(26/8) CON 20(32/11) INT 14 WIS 8(20/5) CHA 3(15/2) | STR 48(60/25) DEX 14(26/8) CON 16(28/8) INT 14 WIS 6(18/4) CHA 4(16/3) |
AC:
10
+ 5 Medium Armor : 15
+ 17 UR Medium Armor bonus : 32
+ 8 DEX bonus : 40
+ 3 Tower Shield : 43
+ 16 Pentavite Shield bonus : 59
+ 20 (+16 boots/haste dodge bonus) : 79
+ 20 DD natural AC : 99
+ 20 Asmodeus Artifact with Deflection AC (helm, cloak, gloves or belt) : 119
+ 2 Armor Skin : 121
+ 12 Tumble AC bonus : 133
+ 4 Girding of the Faithful : 137
+ 1/2 craft armor : 138-139
Saves: (maxed, with +12 cha, con, dex and wis gear and Good alignment)
Planewalker | Battlerager | Derrzagon |
65 61 62 | 65 60 61 | 63 60 60 |
AB:
Planewalker: 96 (20 pre-epic bab +10 epic bab +24 str mod +1 wf +2 ewf +3 lwf +1 prowess +15 lbab +20 buffs)
Battlerager/Derrzagon: 97 (20 pre-epic bab +10 epic bab +25 str mod +1 wf +2 ewf +3 lwf +1 prowess +15 lbab +20 buffs)
Crit range with bastard sword (with keen) is 14-20x4