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Post by stonewarrior on Sept 5, 2007 22:25:46 GMT
I have played Higher Ground for quite awhile..and i must say..i have never ever, not even once, been in a party, where the rule for the loot was something other than "take what you want, as fast as you can" Which is what i personally think is the best way to do it. Unless its an item that respanws every 15 minutes. Then we take turns. I didn't think people actually rolled for the loot. o.O I always thought that it was unfair, they didn't find it, its not thiers. Thats just me. Do you have any characters over level 10? You can not have been on HG very long if you have never seen a loot split...unless of course you have kept to beetles, kobolds and gnolls.
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Post by Tonkers on Sept 5, 2007 23:16:32 GMT
You forgot to add grunt that finders keepers aint gonna work specially if he alone doesnt kill he bosses in LL areas its pretty hard to solo bosses on your own
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Post by cronodevir on Sept 6, 2007 18:17:06 GMT
I have been in groups that did kill bosses, high level ones, and when the loot fell, who ever grabbed it..it was theres, and no one even said anything. Sorry, maby i am just unlucky?? but i have never been in a group where people cared enough to split the loot...
Just yesterday we were killing stuff, and aftwards, the party quickly scrambed to grab as much loot from the chests, some people didn't get [censored], some folks got alot of stuff. And the fact that that happens, and no one i ever met, has said anything about it...is what has led me to believe people just don't care.
In cases where it was a boss, we useualy just hung around untill it respawned, talking about builds or something.
Again, maby i am just the guy who always ends up with the diffrent crowd?..i dunno.
[Edit] Watch the language please. These are family-friendly forums. Funky
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Post by Raj on Sept 7, 2007 16:57:39 GMT
Again, maby i am just the guy who always ends up with the diffrent crowd?..i dunno. no, you simply didn't play any char over lev 40, what you're talking about is common practice before immortality as there's little loot people care about, expecially in powerlevelling areas
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Post by uncanny on Sept 9, 2007 11:06:55 GMT
I wanted to re-highlight this one.. had an instance in the maze where someone AFK'd for about 30mins in the maze.. needless to say, some got a little upset. When they finally returned (still in party), no explanation, no sorry - and kept lead despite being asked to change. It's a worse problem in area's where mobs must be cleared, like the maze, but it's a problem none the less.
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Post by aries328 on Sept 10, 2007 13:51:30 GMT
the party quickly scrambed to grab as much loot from the chests, some people didn't get [censored], some folks got alot of stuff. And the fact that that happens, and no one i ever met, has said anything about it...is what has led me to believe people just don't care. It seems from your post that you have played with some very selfish and childish players. In the group I typically play with, we almost always share loot, no matter what the area. Most times ( Pre-LL of course) items going to whomever needs/could use the item instead of using loot rolls. Being a selfish and/or a self-concerned player is one sure way not to get any additional invites from many players I have conversed/partied with. IMO, such traits are not conducive to party-survival in the harder areas of the mod, and can be very frustrating before that. My general opinion is if one receives an invite, don't immediately set out to looting. Find out how the party is operating and what tactics/strategy are being followed. If one does loot immediately, at least have the courtesy to offer to split the loot after. In our group, most likely we will pass; but it's the consideration that counts. At least that wont get you branded as a About afk'ers, I have no problem with it as long as the party is aware of the situation; most especially on LL runs. As for leechers, Only problem I have with that scenario is players who leech all, or, the majority of arun, and then expect a share of the loot. IMHO, this is a never-ending thread; With the current state of society I don't see there ever being a shortage of inconsiderate and self-concerned players; and unfortunately for the rest of us, those types of players rarely take the advice suggested in threads like these. At best these types of threads simply serve the purpose of giving the rest of us a place to blow off some steam before we go postal.
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Post by tgehawk on Sept 12, 2007 16:08:35 GMT
For loot splitting/mass selling, I believe I was told you Must stay in the Wyrm until the loot is sold or you will not recieve your share. If this is incorrect,( I was just told this the other night and have not tested the information). I am sure that being correct the new guys with no Gold will be sticking around longer. We should make a point to tell the new players in you party.
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Post by gruntgruntson on Sept 12, 2007 16:33:33 GMT
For loot splitting/mass selling, I believe I was told you Must stay in the Wyrm until the loot is sold or you will not recieve your share. If this is incorrect,( I was just told this the other night and have not tested the information). I am sure that being correct the new guys with no Gold will be sticking around longer. We should make a point to tell the new players in you party. I have not tested this recently, but am sure I have received my share of mass-sell gold while in Town, Docks, Altar of Legends, and even Vashyks Ruin (running back into desert to pick up last few XP neede to level, while others sort out last of loot). Will test again soon. One guideline I tend to go by is that if your toon is not in the Wyrm splitting-room, then you have passed on your pick of loot. Leaving the Wyrm after a pick is the same as passing on picks, but will still be in for gold. Obviously calling "AFK a minute - still in for loot" is acceptable (but delaying a loot-split while you nip to the shops is less so ...), and people should give a reasonable time for people to arrive. As always, talk to party for details.
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Post by legendoftime on Sept 12, 2007 16:35:36 GMT
Im almost positive you dont have to be in the Wyrm to get cash split. As far as FFA is concerned, I think if you just stick it out and get to Xul/Lolth/IMMO then you wont have to worry about that nonsense anymore. You will find the more experienced players wont appreciate ninja looting.
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Post by cataclysmic on Sept 12, 2007 17:18:21 GMT
I never stay in Wyrm for Cash split, once I get my pick I am off to do whatever am gunna do next, if I am still in same party and not in Wyrm when loot is sold I always got my share of cash, so no, you don't have to stay in Wyrm for mass selling to get cash
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Post by awdelamosa on Nov 16, 2007 16:22:35 GMT
Offering items to party members that need them, rolling for items and splitting the cash is a standard practice with our group. Letting new party members know who is the bank is also standard practice. There is always some concern in inviting a char. a second time if they ignore party etiquette and start looting and spawning without concern for the rest of the party. I strongly feel that if you join a party that you don't know the other members , that you ask how they are operating the group. Usually the party leader is the one who can answer your questions. You join a party to work together otherwise why join?
just me 2 cents.
Del
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Post by dremble on Dec 13, 2007 17:51:05 GMT
I've been on HG for a few months. All my characters are lower levels though. Highest is 38. So I play a lot with new players and also experienced players starting new characters.
Also, I collect lowbie stuff for my low level characters.
The new players always want some loot. The long time players, just starting new characters usually don't even bother. Sometimes there is a banker who carries stuff, sometimes not.
My approach is to pay attention to who is taking and what they are taking when I enter a group. If nobody takes stuff or if they only take the best of the loot then I don't worry about taking the less valuable stuff. Also, I tell people if I see something that looks valuable to me in a remains bag even if nobody but me is looking at stuff. Once in a while you find something really nice even in a lowbie run.
If there is a banker or people are checking every bag then you need to make sure you don't go pilfering stuff on your own.
The biggest issue for me is what happens when you have to leave early. You can't really do a loot split. If I have stuff that I think others might want, I offer to just give it to them and don't worry about splitting. There's always tomorrow.
The second biggest issue happens when I'm looking for loot and nobody else is. This happens when all the others are experienced and they don't need anything. I want to get some stuff, but everybody else wants to run through the area as fast as possible for the XP. Either I get no loot or I fall behind and loot while the others are fighting.
Something similar happens between casters and tanks. The tanks don't need to rest and just run ahead. The casters run out of spells and hang back to regain their spells. Everyone gets separated. Then the respawns strike and everyone gets wiped out. Oh well.
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Post by AP33 on Mar 6, 2008 15:17:26 GMT
People banking and not putting all the loot in as well as leaving with all the loot without going to the Wyrm...
I have had this on numerous occasions:
The Bank takes all the loot and leaves... Is there anything that can be done about this?
What should a player do when this happens.
This has happened to me as well as others that I spoke to in game...
Please advise
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Post by FunkySwerve on Mar 6, 2008 15:32:05 GMT
Post on the forums to let people know what the person did. It's because of reporting like that that such behaviour doesn't last long here - the people in question often find themselves ostracized.
Funky
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Post by michielhagen on Mar 6, 2008 15:46:50 GMT
Well, i am a new player myself, so maybe i should not respond with this little experience on the server, i will anyway At lower levels it's kind of confusing, for example at one point i joined a lower level party somewhere around 15 or so. They were not picking up any loot i noticed, so i said "I am picking up what i find, if you want a share please mention it". As they were all experienced players they told me to keep it. As we partied for some time players joined and left the party. Anyway, in short, i had to leave in a hurry, but when i got back a day later i got a "angry" response from a player who apparently was also in the party, but had joined after i had mentioned the loot. A misunderstanding off course and he was well refunded, for this was never my intention. Was it my fault? maybe, maybe i should have asked every player that joined the party if he wanted a share of the loot. Maybe the other player should have asked about the loot. I don't know. What i do know is that in lower levels, it seems like a "grab what you can" kind of attitude, i am happy i am past that (and yes, i was part of that sometimes). Now if i just roll a bit better for loot so i can get some UR Oh, and if it was indeed a lower level party, find me on the server and i will refund you with some gold or items you might have missed out on. (MichielHagen)
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