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Post by tyranlthixis on May 19, 2009 9:14:32 GMT
I think some people will really like this build. I'm not a big unitank fan myself. There are people who need the extra resilience and are willing to give up a little bit of offensive prowess for that. I'm really glad you didn't use bugbear . They're just too ugly. Drey is a much better choice. Especially since you're picking up LSA listen anyway, thus eliminating the feat loss you took from not being human. This one has more content than your rogue build, so I think its a stronger overall candidate. I do think something like this would be better with a BUR race, but low-mid 90's ab with high listen isn't that bad considering. Tyranlthixis
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Post by StrykerOfChaos on May 19, 2009 15:46:50 GMT
I find that the 92AB listed isn't really that much of an issue, my universal BUR subby rogue has 93AB before Craft Weapon edits, and gets the Listen skill also so I thought for a Open Subrace this was really good. I found myself pleasantly surprised with the outcome, and it was only possible due to the fact you don't need 40 Base Str for any form of crit immune on fighters. Oh, and of course it would be better with a BUR race, way to be obvious
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Post by tyranlthixis on May 19, 2009 16:48:17 GMT
My point was certain build really don't excell until you get something like Kolyrut working for you. I'm not saying its not playable, but there's a bigger difference between this build with a Bur race and without one compared to some of the other builds.
Tyranlthixis
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Post by Yojimbo on May 28, 2009 18:18:04 GMT
Was just looking back at this and noticed your DEX and STR numbers are inconsistant in the build I didn't do the math to figure which are accurate but you might want to look at that and agian I really thing saves would improve if you rearrange levels to get 4 WM and 2 PLD in before 21. Not sure if a 3rd PLD or 5 WM in before 21 would help or not but something to look at.
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Post by seanbow on Jun 11, 2009 7:26:17 GMT
I'm leveling this build right now and level 33, the first WM level, confuses me. It's only letting take me two feats, one of which doesn't need to be weapon of choice which I find kinda weird. What do I do?
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Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jun 11, 2009 8:11:23 GMT
I'm leveling this build right now and level 33, the first WM level, confuses me. It's only letting take me two feats, one of which doesn't need to be weapon of choice which I find kinda weird. What do I do? Don't take the epic prowess (dex) feat. That was unfortunately, a typo on my part. Take the Weapon of Choice as listed to gain the level 5 WM benefit. Sorry about that
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Post by chrystoph on Jun 12, 2009 19:49:29 GMT
IS there any benefit to doing the Epic Prowess to Dex conversion over just taking Great Dexterity feats?
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Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jun 12, 2009 19:53:25 GMT
IS there any benefit to doing the Epic Prowess to Dex conversion over just taking Great Dexterity feats? Fighters get Epic Prowess as a Fighter bonus feat, they do not get Great Dexterity.
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Post by chrystoph on Jun 15, 2009 12:00:22 GMT
Regarding the BUR discussion, I found this an ideal candidate for using Undying. The +2 stat bonus across the board, with +4 Constitution, makes for a really powerful set of stats, and, depending on how you apply your points, either allows more primary stat boosting, or, by following the current write up, gives enough left over to bring Charisma into positive numbers, making long range improvements to the saves.
Additionally, the Subby bonus feats give you more choice in the build, since they cover several of the desired/required feats.
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Post by chrystoph on Aug 11, 2009 12:06:01 GMT
Need to point out a minor glitch in the leveling information. 30 levels of fighter is not achieved until after the Weapon Master levels, so Epic Dodge does not come in until level 39.
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Post by bkboggy on Aug 25, 2010 23:46:30 GMT
Could me just me.... but I can't get Lightning Reflex at lvl2....? Not available on the list.
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Post by Torin on Aug 26, 2010 7:48:31 GMT
yup - Take Dodge at level 2 (as a fighter bonus feat) and lighning Reflexes at level 3 as a general feat.
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Post by bkboggy on Aug 26, 2010 18:05:56 GMT
Are there any other changes I will have to make, or everything's been edited?
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Post by redbeard on Aug 26, 2010 18:40:12 GMT
Are there any other changes I will have to make, or everything's been edited? There is some discussion earlier about the level 33 feats. The build lists 3 but only 2 are available. Don't take the Epic Prowess (Dex) feat.
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Post by bkboggy on Aug 27, 2010 0:16:07 GMT
Ahh, k. Thanks. It appears to be a good build for a new person like me. I love meele.
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