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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 19, 2010 9:14:12 GMT
I made a build for Svirfneblin with this so Half-Kyton shouldn't be too much of a stretch.
I don't have the time now but will try to draw up a version with Haklf-Kyton at some point over the weekend.
Cata
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Post by borges on Mar 19, 2010 17:46:13 GMT
Here is a Half-Kyton version in less than 140 characters: Same starting stats, drop Toughness at lvl 12 for Imp Crit: Unarmed. TA DA!
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 19, 2010 21:56:31 GMT
Lolz well that saves me spendinmg an hour in the test chamber trying to figure it out Cata
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Post by MightyKhan on Mar 20, 2010 14:58:59 GMT
or, if you wish to adhere to the slightly higher strength stat, you can drop some starting constitution into strength. but what borges said should work too also, instead of improved ki +4, you might want to consider taking an additional improved SR feat. and now a question for cata himself: why dodge, mobility and spring attack? since you already have tumble maximised, spring attack and mobility are quite useless. with zeny, you dont need them for WWA either. i'd spend them on saves or minor skill boosts instead (SF: discipline for an effective +6 strength for example)
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 20, 2010 15:19:06 GMT
I took them basuically because I couldn't think of anything better to take at that particular time. I tend not to plan out my builds rather make them up as I level them.
Am a little confused, how does SF: Discipline give me an effective +6 Strength?
Cata
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 21, 2010 10:37:53 GMT
Ok after some thinking and comments both here and in another thread regarding Stunning Fist Monks and also the introduction of Greter Weapon Focus, Power and Superior Crit I have reinc'd my Stunning Fist Dex Monk. Here is the result Base Race: Human Subrace: Zenythri STR +4, DEX +4, WIS +4 Weapon Specialisation Unarmed Epic Weapon Specialisation Unarmed Improved Crit Unarmed Whirlwind Attack Improved Whirlwind Attack Stats (Starting Stats/Lvl 1 with Subrace added/Lvl 60 Naked/Lvl 60 Fully Geared with +14/Demi/Double Demi) STR 8/12/12/26/28/30 DEX 18/22/44/58/60/62 +2 From Dex Artifact = 64 Dex CON 12/12/12/26/28/30 INT 12/12/12/26/28/30 WIS 14/18/24/38/40/42 CHA 8/ 8/8/22/24/26 Level ProgressionJason Aers |
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Level | Class | Feats | Skill points | Ability Points |
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1 | Monk | - Assist Other - Cleave - Command Targeter - Epic Weapon Specialization (unarmed strike) - Evasion - Flurry of Blows - Great Fortitude - Improved Critical (unarmed strike) - Improved Unarmed Strike - Improved Whirlwind Attack - Monk AC Bonus - Mount Actions - Quick To Master - Stunning Fist - Toughness - Weapon Proficiency (monk) - Weapon Specialization (unarmed strike) - Whirlwind Attack
| - Concentration +4 - Craft Armor +4 - Discipline +4 - Listen +4 - Parry +4 - Tumble +4
| / | 2 | Monk | - Deflect Arrows
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 3 | Monk | - Monk Speed - Still Mind - Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +2 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 4 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 5 | Monk | - Purity of Body
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 6 | Monk | - Improved Knockdown - Knockdown - Weapon Finesse
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 7 | Monk | - Wholeness of Body
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 8 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 9 | Monk | - Greater Weapon Focus (unarmed strike) - Improved Evasion
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 10 | Monk | - Ki Strike +1
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 11 | Monk | - Diamond Body
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 12 | Monk | - Diamond Soul - Power Critical (unarmed strike)
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 13 | Monk | - Ki Strike +2
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 14 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 15 | Monk | - Extra Stunning Attacks - Quivering Palm
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 16 | Monk | - Ki Strike +3
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 17 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 18 | Monk | - Empty Body - Skill Focus (Discipline)
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 19 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 20 | Monk | - Perfect Self
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 21 | Monk | - Epic Character - Epic Monk - Epic Prowess
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 22 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 23 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 24 | Monk | - Epic Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 25 | Monk | - Superior Critical (unarmed strike)
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 26 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 27 | Monk | - Great Wisdom I
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 28 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 29 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 30 | Monk | - Great Wisdom II - Improved Stunning Fist I
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 31 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 32 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 33 | Monk | - Improved Stunning Fist II
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 34 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 35 | Monk | - Improved Stunning Fist III
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 36 | Monk | - Great Wisdom III
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | 37 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 38 | Monk | / | - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 39 | Monk | - Great Wisdom IV
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| / | 40 | Monk | - Armor Skin
| - Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Listen +1 - Parry +1 - Tumble +1
| Dexterity | Legendary | Monk | - Great Dexterity I - Great Dexterity II - Great Wisdom V - Great Wisdom VI - Improved Ki Strike +4 - Improved Stunning Fist IV (From Pandect) - Improved Stunning Fist V (From Pandect) - Legendary Character - Legendary Fortitude - Legendary Monk - Legendary Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
All Stats go into Dexterity
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I used a Dex Artifact and Stunning Fist Pandect on this Monk. Saves come out as 66/74/63 AC standing on docks is 148, topping out at 151 with Song and girding. AB with Song is 95. As you can see the AB and AC is higher than the previous versions. Stunning Fist DC is still maxed out at DC 70. Cata
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Post by MightyKhan on Mar 21, 2010 11:53:30 GMT
SF discipline provide +3 discipline. +6 strength also gives you +3 discipline. for a dexer, it's an easy and cheap way to up your discipline a bit.
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 21, 2010 17:23:55 GMT
Ah ok thanks. Well took it on the reinc and glad I did.
Thanks
Cata
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Post by MurphysLawAgain on Mar 21, 2010 20:01:41 GMT
Cata, in the LL portion of that table you have a lot of feats. You might want to remove those that aren't feats you picked?
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 21, 2010 21:39:18 GMT
I actually thought about doing that but decided to leave them in. You get them as free feats and it is worth knowing what you are getting if you are new to Monks. However I will try and highlight the ones that are free and the ones I picked when I get chance Cata
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Post by Werehound Silverfang on Mar 25, 2010 18:19:25 GMT
Just looking, those starting stats aren't possible.
30 Points to spend, you spent 36:
STR: 8 to 10 = 2 DEX: 8 to 18 = 16 CON: 8 to 12 = 4 INT: 8 to 12 = 4 WIS: 8 to 16 = 10 CHA: Same Total: 2 + 16 + 4 + 4 + 10 = 36
You'd have to have 16 starting dex.
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 26, 2010 0:09:52 GMT
You are correct, I changed the build around slightly when I reinc'd including the starting stats and forgot to take that into account, I was being dumb Changed starting stats to how they should be. Cata
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Post by Werehound Silverfang on Mar 26, 2010 4:08:50 GMT
Mmm, hate to bother, but now you're 10 short?
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Post by MightyKhan on Mar 26, 2010 7:25:47 GMT
Cata = funny
probably not wearing complete +14 gear...
cata, why did you pick up improved ki strike +4? afaik, you already get way better enhancement from wisdom alone..
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 26, 2010 15:58:29 GMT
Ok figured out where I went wrong and corrected. Stats should now be correct. If they aint am gunna hit my head against a wall repeatedly while some one else figures it out cause as far as I can see they are correct As for taking Ki Strike +4 I had a spare feat and the damn thing goes fast enough without the extra boost from the speed feat (Can't remember name) and I couldn't think of anything else at the time to take. Cata
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