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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Apr 2, 2008 22:23:33 GMT
3x epic toughness or imp stunning fist or imp SR or whatever
Wouldn't bother with these personally.
The epic toughness is nice but not essential. The imp stunning fist is a waste unless your Wisdom is decent and since Monks get damn fine SR ne way why waste feats on it?
Move the Epic Prowess and Unarmed focus from Legendary to there and use the Legendary feats u just freed up for save feats.
If u really want higher SR use a Pandect. If u really want higher HP up ya CON
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Post by Aribeth on Apr 2, 2008 22:45:26 GMT
Hey Folks...
I just wanted to answer the question for the player that asked how does one get 70 strength, that was my only intention.
Please do not infer that I affirm or deny going this max strength route is the way to go.
I believe that I have been in parties with Groo and Trazik using their strength monks. It is my observation that both monks performed well above par and I believe top melee damage dealer. In my mind both builds are successful and if we saw Trazik's build I would wager it would be similar to Groo's.
Aribeth
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Post by Trazik on Apr 3, 2008 5:54:06 GMT
I apologize for my part in taking this thread off topic, and I am thankful that cooler heads have prevailed. Pardon my quirky ego, but I tend stand up to people who make incorrect claims about me. If you wish to discuss this futher, please contact me via PM.
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Post by tyranlthixis on Apr 3, 2008 20:52:30 GMT
I built something very similar to this one with Zenythri. Closer to the newest incarnation of Bognus than the original build I think. Anyhow...Offensively this build rocks. Not recommended as a primary tank especially before you can get the Asmo torch. Things get considerably better once you're double demi in terms of overall stability. I think I started with 20 strength. If I had been double demi and was reincarnating, I probably would have started at 22 just because you have more to work with in terms of staying in the right AC range with +4 to all your stats.
The gear requirements are fairly big for this build and its a bit squishy between levels 40-50. Honestly, if I had to make a UR or below monk I would probably opt for a dex monk unless you are an experience monk player. Understanding your limits and role makes you a lot less squishy. Most people will find without Zenythri or a comparable Bur race they are just a touch below their comfort zone defensively.
Tyran
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Post by starlandra on Apr 5, 2008 15:22:47 GMT
would it hurt this build to use 'chucks' instead of fists?
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Post by Master Jaxx on Apr 5, 2008 17:17:15 GMT
I guess you could modify it to use chucks but this build was meant for unarmed.
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Post by the1kobra on Apr 5, 2008 17:41:32 GMT
You lose a lot of damage by going with Nunchucks. Your physical damage is reduced to 1d6, wheras fists gain 2d10+22, then add Str modifiers and all. If you're going to use a weapon with this build, use a quarterstaff so you get the 1.5* str mod damage.
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Post by starlandra on Apr 5, 2008 21:02:07 GMT
was just curious lol kk fister I be
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Post by manevilus83 on Sept 9, 2008 22:29:52 GMT
Do you take the DD level AT 16 or After 16, Im pretty sure that would make a difference..
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Post by starlandra on Sept 9, 2008 23:15:52 GMT
with defensive awareness II available from bur helms, would it be best to ditch DD and use something else... like maybe rogue for umd or paladin for saves and fear immune?
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Post by Master Jaxx on Sept 9, 2008 23:30:20 GMT
Rogue - no cause the point of doing a Tier 1 class was to get +1 ab and an extra attack besides HS can get cross-class UMD in LLs.
Pally - maybe (saves are already decent). . . though you don't need fear immune since you get Perfect Self @ lvl 20.
I had thought about doing Ranger instead of DwD. (I'm using this helm you speak of as well)
I take the DwD lvls after 16th. . . to take advantage of the Monk saves progression as much as possible.
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Post by chirikov on Sept 10, 2008 3:37:02 GMT
the saves you get from class levels are only based on the number of levels, not the order you take them in. alternating 1/1/1/1 is exactly the same as 2/2 progression, etc
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Post by starlandra on Sept 10, 2008 3:41:21 GMT
was thinking rogue in LL where is won't effect your ab etc. was testing both out, and of course the paly version is nice cause you can just ignore saves. extra sneak from rogue was nice in test mode so I am a bit torn
ranger could be fun cause the extra damage from favored enemy is always helpful.
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Post by MurphysLawAgain on Sept 10, 2008 12:31:57 GMT
Star, if you dont take a tier 1 AB class pre epic you are going to miss out on an attack. Rogue wont cut it although either Paladin or Blackguard would. Monks get tier 1 AB in legendary levels but are 3/4 in pre-epic AB progression.
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Post by starlandra on Sept 10, 2008 21:26:02 GMT
hmm well I just tested out a monk CoT wm build using a staff with zeny, (did Cot and WM pre epic for the full 6 main hand attacks) 12 monk 3 cot 1 monk 7 wm 20 monk. prob put too much dex (26 base) and will have 42 base str at 60. ab should be 94ish and finished ac will be 124ish. At level 50 just did DB and was not touched. I am cheating with strongheart to get my ac above 120 pre burs lol.
went CoT for the feats, and ab. pretty fun
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