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Post by guardian2 on May 25, 2009 21:14:05 GMT
Could this build be modified to work with Spelljammer?
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Post by jazzadellic on Jan 1, 2010 8:56:10 GMT
I don't understand the point of the pally level. You can't get save bonus if you are evil, and you can't use your best PM spell if you are good, so what is the point of 1 pally level?
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Post by Eethen on Jan 1, 2010 10:32:40 GMT
« Last Edit: Feb 1, 2008, 2:31pm by ilovedietpepsi »
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Post by starlandra on Jan 1, 2010 18:02:43 GMT
this build was made a loooong time ago... the best pm spell didn't exist back then and there were many 'good' pms lol...
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Post by jazzadellic on Jan 3, 2010 10:09:51 GMT
k thanks for the clarification, someone managed to convince me that this build was still good....and i made it, but now I realize pally level is somewhat pointless....going to reincarnate. No biggie I guess. Gosh I wish 99.999999% of all wiz / intel builds were not genie......and/or outdated......
I wonder if 1 level of BG could be made to work for this build or even an entirely different build. Hide is cross class skill for wizard and for cleave you could just drink that blood right? Any major problems with adding in a BG level?
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Post by chainlink on Jan 3, 2010 10:29:30 GMT
You can only use the blood on a free race so that somewhat limits your build options and BG only gets dark blessing at level 2 so one level of BG is going to do nothing for you. There were loads of discussions about this after the change was made. You can still take one Pally level and as long as you do not use the Int artifact you will be able to change to good alignment at level 40 and benefit from the saves boost, its only use of the Int artifact that will make you permanently evil and this is a personal choice.
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Post by jazzadellic on Jan 3, 2010 10:45:17 GMT
You can only use the blood on a free race so that somewhat limits your build options and BG only gets dark blessing at level 2 so one level of BG is going to do nothing for you. There were loads of discussions about this after the change was made. You can still take one Pally level and as long as you do not use the Int artifact you will be able to change to good alignment at level 40 and benefit from the saves boost, its only use of the Int artifact that will make you permanently evil and this is a personal choice. but then you can't use PM spell soulbind: you must be evil to use that, and that seems like a huge sacrafice since soulbind gives you 3 more caster levels.
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Post by Eethen on Jan 3, 2010 11:28:49 GMT
Actually, ED (Energy Drain) gives you +3 CL, soulbind just stores them for you.
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Post by Rain on Jan 3, 2010 11:32:54 GMT
Just so you know, 3 successful EDs give you 3 caster lvls and it doesnot stack with soulbind. Actually soulbind is just a handy way to store the 3 EDs you already got in the same area and use when you need(with 1 more round duration).
As a pure DC relying caster, the loss of 1 DC from int arti does matter a lot cuz DC spells is everything for you. As an arcane caster, save isnot that a big issue especially when u can cast ghost visage which is a pm spell.
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Post by jazzadellic on Jan 3, 2010 13:23:01 GMT
Ah ok thanks for the info, I didn't understand exactly what soulbind was. And yeah the intel arti is an issue.
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Post by starlandra on Jan 4, 2010 5:17:22 GMT
meh go pure then
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