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Post by mishimayukio on Mar 25, 2008 19:53:17 GMT
There is no offhand AC, there is 8 wisdom AC from the monk level. This is an old-school dual wielder, none of that fancy ranger stuff.
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Post by Terankar on Mar 28, 2008 21:44:02 GMT
with 50 assassin lvls and 63 hide, you should only need skill focus (hide) to get the max concealment of 67%. As I see it, ESF:Hide is obselete in this build.
I could be mistaking, but hope someone will give me some feedback
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Post by StrykerOfChaos on Mar 28, 2008 22:24:13 GMT
with 50 assassin lvls and 63 hide, you should only need skill focus (hide) to get the max concealment of 67%. As I see it, ESF:Hide is obselete in this build. I could be mistaking, but hope someone will give me some feedback Alright, when you take SF: Hide it adds into the +50 cap from items. This means if you have 5 items on that give +10 to hide, SF: Hide is completely useless to you. However, if you have ESF: Hide, it is seperate from the +50 cap and will always help. LSF: Hide would be the same as SF:Hide, it is included in the cap. -Stryker
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Post by Acaos on Mar 28, 2008 22:26:50 GMT
SF: Hide is not included in the +50 cap.
Acaos
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Post by mishimayukio on Mar 28, 2008 22:29:19 GMT
You aren't taking into account penalties that reduce your skills like those found in the hells. Nessus as a 1x demi is -26 to all skills.
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Post by HFactor on Mar 29, 2008 3:16:28 GMT
Skill Mastery negates the hells penalties but I think that is rogue only.
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Post by fraglord85 on Mar 30, 2008 16:15:43 GMT
u say Weapon of choice Assasin dagger
why is it standing in ur lvl up that u choose weapon focus club ?
Greetz Frag
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Post by mishimayukio on Mar 30, 2008 16:25:27 GMT
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Post by fraglord85 on Mar 30, 2008 21:46:36 GMT
people kept saying to me max dex for a dexxer is 60 how come u managed 70?
greetz frag
Edit: nvm 20 start +6 from brownie +20 from 1 to 60 +12 from items +10 from great dex feats +2 from artifact +4 from double demi = 74 max
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Post by fraglord85 on Apr 3, 2008 20:25:40 GMT
Here is my take on assassin. The most noteworthy feature is the dual wielding, which actually increases the chance of mortal striking in the first flurry of a round, since the offhand attacks aren't made until the 3rd flurry, and by the time you usually get to them, the target is already dead. Build layout was taken directly from dm_info_lev, a new feature that was added in the last update. Subrace: Halfling Brownie Stats | Starting Stats(Subrace mod) | 60 with items | Strength | 6(6) | 18 | Dexterity | 20(28) | 68 | Constitution | 12(14) | 26 | Intelligence | 14(14) | 26 | Wisdom | 12(14) | 26 | Charisma | 8(8) | 20 |
Alignment: Lawful Evil Weapon: Assassin Dagger Artifact: DEX artifact 1 Monk Hide +4, MS +4 Bullheaded 2 Fighter Weapon Finesse 3 Fighter Ambidexterity Two-Weapon Fighting 4 Fighter (Dexterity +1) 5 Monk 6 Monk Hide +4, MS +4 Blind-Fight 7 Assassin 8 Assassin (Dexterity +1) 9 Assassin Great Fortitude 10 Assassin 11 Assassin 12 Fighter (Dexterity +1) Improved Two-Weapon Fighting Iron Will 13 Assassin 14 Assassin 15 Fighter Weapon Focus (club) 16 Fighter (Dexterity +1) Improved Critical (club) 17 Assassin 18 Assassin Skill Focus (Hide) 19 Assassin 20 Monk (Dexterity +1) Disc +23, Hide +15, Parry +23, Tum +23 21 Assassin Hide +1, UMD +24, Tum +1 Armor Skin 22 Assassin 23 Assassin 24 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Epic Weapon Focus (club) Great Dexterity III 25 Assassin 26 Assassin 27 Assassin Epic Prowess 28 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Great Dexterity IV 29 Assassin 30 Assassin Great Dexterity V 31 Assassin 32 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Great Dexterity VI 33 Assassin Great Dexterity VII 34 Assassin 35 Assassin 36 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Tum +15 Great Dexterity IX Great Dexterity VIII 37 Assassin 38 Assassin 39 Assassin Epic Skill Focus (Hide) 40 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Hide +19, UMD +19, Tum +4 Great Dexterity X Legendary feats and skills:Conc +3, Disc +40, Hide +20, OL +1, Parry +8, UMD +20, Tum +17, CrA +63 LSA Discipline Epic Skill focus (Discipline) legendary luck legendary will legendary fortitude legendary weapon focus club Blinding Speed What UR subby would u recommend me for this build ?
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Post by mishimayukio on Apr 3, 2008 20:34:49 GMT
Probably planewalker or lycan halfling. You would need to shuffle the feats around and drop some to fit in the feats lost from not going brownie.
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Post by fraglord85 on Apr 3, 2008 21:10:23 GMT
Probably planewalker or lycan halfling. You would need to shuffle the feats around and drop some to fit in the feats lost from not going brownie. i used planewalker got also a lycan and i didnt took hide skill to get those dex lX and X if thats not wise could u plz tell me what i should do to gain max benefits ?
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Post by StrykerOfChaos on Apr 3, 2008 21:15:49 GMT
@ Frag, you can't drop SF: Hide for an epic feat as she takes it at lvl 18. I would recommend dropping blinding speed @ 60 for one feat as all it does is make you run faster. Other than that you could drop ESF: Hide if you want. That way you only lose 10 hide and pick up 1 AC and 1 DC on your mortal strike.
If anyone has something to suggest otherwise please do as I could have just said something stupid.
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Post by fraglord85 on Apr 3, 2008 22:00:36 GMT
@ Frag, you can't drop SF: Hide for an epic feat as she takes it at lvl 18. I would recommend dropping blinding speed @ 60 for one feat as all it does is make you run faster. Other than that you could drop ESF: Hide if you want. That way you only lose 10 hide and pick up 1 AC and 1 DC on your mortal strike. If anyone has something to suggest otherwise please do as I could have just said something stupid. 1 Monk Hide +4, MS +4 Bullheaded 2 Fighter Weapon Finesse 3 Fighter Ambidexterity Two-Weapon Fighting 4 Fighter (Dexterity +1) 5 Monk 6 Monk Hide +4, MS +4 Blind-Fight 7 Assassin 8 Assassin (Dexterity +1) 9 Assassin Great Fortitude 10 Assassin 11 Assassin 12 Fighter (Dexterity +1) Improved Two-Weapon Fighting Iron Will 13 Assassin 14 Assassin 15 Fighter Weapon Focus (club) 16 Fighter (Dexterity +1) Improved Critical (club) 17 Assassin 18 Assassin Skill Focus (Hide) 19 Assassin 20 Monk (Dexterity +1) Disc +23, Hide +15, Parry +23, Tum +23 21 Assassin Hide +1, UMD +24, Tum +1 Armor Skin <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<great dex 22 Assassin 23 Assassin 24 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Epic Weapon Focus (club) Great Dexterity III 25 Assassin 26 Assassin 27 Assassin Epic Prowess 28 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Great Dexterity IV 29 Assassin 30 Assassin Great Dexterity V 31 Assassin 32 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Great Dexterity VI 33 Assassin Great Dexterity VII 34 Assassin 35 Assassin 36 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Tum +15 Great Dexterity IX Great Dexterity VIII 37 Assassin 38 Assassin 39 Assassin Epic Skill Focus (Hide) 40 Assassin (Dexterity +1) Hide +19, UMD +19, Tum +4 Great Dexterity X Legendary feats and skills: Conc +3, Disc +40, Hide +20, OL +1, Parry +8, UMD +20, Tum +17, CrA +63 LSA Discipline Epic Skill focus (Discipline) legendary luck legendary will legendary fortitude legendary weapon focus club Blinding Speed<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Great dex that should be best then no ?
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Post by borges on Apr 3, 2008 23:15:47 GMT
Don't drop Armor Skin ever. Stryker's suggestion, which seems reasonable, was to replace Epic Skill Focus: Hide with Great Dexterity.
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