Heaven's Wrath (28CoT/10Pal/2Rogue)

[wnxnierak]

Gut instinct says 8 Paladin 2 rogue pre 20 and taking 30 CoT...

Max UMD at 20 you get an "Extra Feat" for CoT 30 which you can shuffle around to take ESF UMD giving you 33 ranks effectively and +14charisma means 47 UMD

Hell penalty of would cut it down but still enough to cast from scroll.

Just a variation, I realise your 41 already.

EDIT:Just realised it wouldn't work due to fact it switches CoT 10 from epic to pre-epic. Apologies

[uncanny]

Question... could this work out with a UR race, say FA or Baseborn?

[wnxhalfwingseen]

I made my COT with Stinger and went 5/5/30 Fighter Wep master COT to maximize on my crits with divine wrath ( 20 piercing positive damage and scythe with X6 crits ) i find hes rediculous that way as his crits vs goblins hit over 1200. COT is a great class and this is a great smiting version of a build but i say UMD is highly overrated as my "Pure" COT rarely ever runs out of Divine wrath with his Small +6 Cha modifier. with +14 thats 70 rounds with 30 levels of COT and 5 uses a day so thats 350 Rounds a rest thats 35 Real time minutes of Divine Wrath. You should be able to find time to rest once every 35 minutes. Though if your build isnt as good defensively i can see how you might need Greater Sanctuary.

[wodgard]

could trade off extra smiteing for extra turning...

extra smite only bumps ya to 3 smites only need the 1 to use greater smite. havent seen any hit personaly with normal smite to wright home about...

extra turning will give ya extra used of your sheild and divine might.. more usefull in my opinion...

just thoughts.. looks a solid cot

[wodgard]

never mind the above forgot the cut to the smite timer offers by extra smite

[wnxstrikefighter]

I'm up to lvl 51 on a slightly modified version of this build. Decided to post since now with crit immunity and the extra attack from divine wrath the build is starting to look good.

AC is ok at 121 and will max at 123 at lvl 60 without any BURs. With crit immunity he can be surrounded in the desert and only have to worry about rolling 1's. Damage is very nice with frequent crits and +17 and +13 irresistable damage from Divine Wrath and Divine Might. Damage will be greatly improved once I take Dev and Overwhelming Crit.

I must say that the irresistable damage is very nice and is one of the best advantages of this build imo.

Anyway, was a fun build to level although he was a bit slow to develop. Doing very well now and I will post more at 60 and after a few hell runs!

[sabregirl]

Updated build with shot of demied CoT.

-S

[bort]

sabregirl said:

we'll have to see how it goes with demi pens ^_^.

What pens?

Auto restore penalties after 6 rounds at 25 CoT, 5 rounds at

35 CoT, 4 rounds at 45 CoT, and 3 rounds at 50 CoT (requires 25 class levels of CoT)

[sabregirl]

That's lesser restore bort . . .it doesn't get you out of demi/hells pens just the additional stuff monsters inflict on you . . . . You want a str tank with no pens . . . go battle cleric.

-S

[bort]

Oh. :/
Thanks.

[Onyx [SL]]

Here is my build I'll be using a Half-Eladrin race I traded with Mish for based on your build. Con is I'm limited in weapon size due to I have to take Gnome. But the stats are good I'll be able to reach the required levels of STR and CHR I need to make things work well. Starting off with STR 14 (21), CON 16, INT 12 and CHR 16 (23). Take CHR to 26 then go all STR then at Lvl 57 Go all CHR (take two CHR feats plus two CHR chooses) instead of STR to get early Crit immune and AB bonus's. If you get Demi I would start thinking about using Medium Armor and take your Dex to 14 to increase your AC after reincarnation. I took out knockdown due to me being a wee little lad to be doing that type of thing. Once I get up to 60 I'll add my stats naked.

As you can see I was able to add Divine Might! (have to use it before each battle doesn't last long) after reincarnation plus able to get the level 50 COT bonus's. I looked at Saber's build and found going 50 levels of COT is well worth a sacrifice for scroll usage, With CHR at 30 I was able to get my UMD to 39 skill level which is well enough I think. With INT at 12 and Gnome skill bonus's I was able to max Discipline, Parry, Craft Armor, and Craft Weapon.

At level 35 AC will be low so not a good tank against the drow bring plenty of Heals (good idea to get a Thid Healing beaker for this char). Needed to keep asking for GMW. But once you hit lvl 40 it will be alot better keep a backpack of lvl 40 items (UR's if you gottem) because your going to get good exp in the Drow city and can level fast.

At Lvl 57 I marched through Tia and Dis with no problems. Enryes got me due to my low Dex but that was the only problems I had. With my UR equipment and a Druids Shunt I had no problems with the elemental dragons. Evade and tumble I think helped with the Dragon Breaths. My AB was mostly over 100 on all attacks and critting sometimes at 500 plus with my light pick. Tia I was dishing out 90 plus on physical and I know my devine might attacks hurt her . Have a Armor Pandect I'm going to use after Min plus if I get a STR arti I'll add that also to this build.



""Half-Eladrin" (secret Beyond UltraRare)
- FCs: Bard, Paladin
- +7 STR, +5 CHA, free feats: Great Charisma I, Great Charisma II, Divine Shield (3 uses/day if no Turn Undead uses)

(start - race bonus - lvl 60)
STR 14 - (21) - 48 (should be enough to hit em with smite)
DEX 8 - 8 - 8 (wear Heavy Metal Armor and have a Bard handy)
CON 16 - 16 - 16 (you'll need the HP's)
INT 12 - 12 - 12 (able to max out your skillz)
WIS 8 - 8 - 8 (don't need spell casting on Pally plus Will saves will be covered by the Pally and COT boost for saves)
CHR 16- (23) - 30 (for saves and UMD boost's)



1-Rogue(1): Blooded (skills just Max Discipline)
2-Paladin(1)
3-Paladin(2): Power attack (required for Divine might)
4-Paladin(3)
5-Paladin(4)
6-Paladin(5): Weapon focus: tiny or small (required for COT)
7-Paladin(6)
8-Paladin(7)
9-Paladin (8) : Divine Might (plus divine damage per CHR modifier)
10-Champion of Torm(1):
11-Champion of Torm(2): Improved Critical: tiny or small
12-Champion of Torm(3): Toughness
13-Champion of Torm(4): Cleave
14-Champion of Torm(5)
15-Champion of Torm(6):
16-Champion of Torm(7): Extra Smiting, Great Cleave
17-Champion of Torm(8): Blind Fight
18-Champion of Torm(9): Optional: Lightning Reflexes or Epic Will or Exotic feat
19-Champion of Torm(10): Improved Power Attack (plus 10 dmg minus 10 ab)
20-Rogue(2): (receive evasion) Max tumble max UMD
21-Champion of Torm(11) :Armor Skin
22-Champion of Torm(12)
23-Champion of Torm(13):
24-Champion of Torm(14): Great Smite I, Great Smite II
25-Champion of Torm(15)
26-Champion of Torm(16):
27-Champion of Torm(17): Great Smite III
28-Champion of Torm(18): Great Smite IV
39-Champion of Torm(19)
30-Champion of Torm(20): Great Smite V
31-Champion of Torm(21)
32-Champion of Torm(22): Great Smite VI
33-Champion of Torm(23): Great Smite VII
34-Champion of Torm(24)
35-Champion of Torm(25): (Lvl 25: receive: Nimbus of Victory, True Sight, Perpetual Wellness)
36-Champion of Torm(26): Great Smite VIII, Great Smite IX
37-Champion of Torm(27)
38-Champion of Torm(28): Great Smite X
39-Champion of Torm(29)
40-Champion of Torm(30): Epic Prowess

Legendary feats (gnomes get plus 2 to skills/level ; Champion of Torm get +1 bonus strength every five legendary levels plus get added 10 STR due to Great Smite X)


42 Champion of Torm(32): LSA Tumble
43 Champion of Torm(33): (bring tumble up to Max after that Max Tumble, Discipline, Parry, Craft Armor, and Craft Weapon)
45 Champion of Torm(35): Epic Weapon Focus: tiny or small
48 Champion of Torm(38): Legendary Weapon Focus: tiny or small
50 Champion of Torm(40): (receive crit immune w/divine wrath after reaching 40 base STR)
51 Champion of Torm(41): Overwhelming Critical
54 Champion of Torm(44): Devastating Critical
55 Champion of Torm(45): (receive lvl 45: immunity to mind-affecting spells and abilities)
57 Champion of Torm(47): Great CHR
60 Champion of Torm(50): Great CHR

OPTIONAL: Go all STR after 26 CHR for plus 2 AB instead of plus 2 Divine Damage and lower saves.

[dragonlance007]

Just got Pharlan and wanted to make a CoT similar to this so I looked over your build. I noticed a few typos and misprints in it.

For instance you have Imp Crit listed twice at lvls 13 and 15 and you do not have Weapon Focus listed at all and its a pre-req for CoT and many other feats listed on the build.

Also taking Great CHA 1 at lvl 21 to get the 25 CHA needed for Great Smiting will not work to take Great Smiting on that same level up, you could add the first 5 ability increases to CHA then take Great STR 1 at 21 for the result you are after.

I have tweeked the build for Pharlan and will start it tonight. Here it is for all who might be interested. Thanks for the nice build SG.

"Pharlan" (secret Beyond UltraRare; adds wings and tail)
- FCs: Cleric, Paladin
- STR +4, WIS +4, CHA +4, free feats: Great Strength I, Great Strength II, Divine Might

Starting Stats
(with Pharlan)
str- 14 (20)
dex- 8 (8)
con- 16 (16)
int- 12
wis- 8 (12)
cha- 16 (20)

You'll need to spend your first 5 stat points on charisma since you need to get to 25 at lvl 20, spend the rest on strength. Skill points into discipline only, max out UMD and up to 40 tumble on rogue levels and in LLs after LSA tumble. Spare points into Craft Armor.

1-Ro 01: Rogue(1): Blooded
2-P 02: Paladin(1)
3-P 03: Paladin(2): Weapon Proficiency Exotic
4-P 04: Paladin(3)
5-P 05: Paladin(4)
6-P 06: Paladin(5): Lightning Reflexes
7-P 07: Paladin(6)
8-P 08: Paladin(7)
9-P 09: Paladin(8): Weapon Focus Bastard Sword
10-P 10: Paladin(9)
11-P 11: Paladin(10)
12-CT 12: Champion of Torm(1): Extra Smiting
13-CT 13: Champion of Torm(2): Improved Critical: Bastard Sword
14-CT 14: Champion of Torm(3)
15-CT 15: Champion of Torm(4): Power Attack, Cleave
16-CT 16: Champion of Torm(5)
17-CT 17: Champion of Torm(6): Great Cleave
18-CT 18: Champion of Torm(7): Toughness
19-CT 19: Champion of Torm(8): Blind Fight
20-CT 20: Champion of Torm(9)
21-CT 21: Champion of Torm(10): Great STR 3, Great Smite I
22-CT 22: Champion of Torm(11)
23-CT 23: Champion of Torm(12)
24-CT 24: Champion of Torm(13): Great Smite II
25-CT 25: Champion of Torm(14): Great Smite III
26-CT 26: Champion of Torm(15)
27-CT 27: Champion of Torm(16): Great Smite IV
28-CT 28: Champion of Torm(17)
29-CT 29: Champion of Torm(18): Great Smite V
30-CT 30: Champion of Torm(19): Great Smite VI
31-CT 31: Champion of Torm(20)
32-CT 32: Champion of Torm(21)
33-CT 33: Champion of Torm(22): Great Smite VII, Great Smite VIII
34-CT 34: Champion of Torm(23)
35-CT 35: Champion of Torm(24)
36-CT 36: Champion of Torm(25)Great Smite IX
37-CT 37: Champion of Torm(26): Armor Skin
38-CT 38: Champion of Torm(27)
39-CT 39: Champion of Torm(28): Great Smite X
40-Ro 40: Rogue(2): {Evasion}

Legendary feats
LSA Tumble
Overwhelming Critical
Devastating Critical
Great Cha 1
Epic Weapon Focus Bastard Sword
Epic Prowess
Legendary Weapon Focus Bastard Sword

Saves are the same as SG's original build. Same STR too but this build gets Divine Might for free so it has a bit better damage. I am really looking forward to this build. Please let me know if it can be tweeked anymore or if I screwed up on something. Thanks again.

~DL

[dragonlance007]

After going over this build with Starlandra I decided to change the level split.

Here is the updated build.

"Pharlan" (secret Beyond UltraRare; adds wings and tail)
- FCs: Cleric, Paladin
- STR +4, WIS +4, CHA +4, free feats: Great Strength I, Great Strength II, Divine Might

Starting Stats
(with Pharlan)
str- 14 (20)
dex- 8 (8)
con- 16 (16)
int- 12
wis- 8 (12)
cha- 16 (20)

You'll need to spend your first 5 stat points on charisma since you need to get to 25 at lvl 20, spend the rest on strength. Skill points into discipline only, max out UMD and tumble to 20 at lvl 20. Then boost tumble in the LLs after you get LSA tumble. Spare points into Craft Armor.

Level progression - 1 Rogue / 8 Paladin / 10 CoT / 1 Rogue / 20 CoT
1-Ro 01: Rogue(1): Blooded
2-P 02: Paladin(1)
3-P 03: Paladin(2): Weapon Proficiency Exotic
4-P 04: Paladin(3)
5-P 05: Paladin(4)
6-P 06: Paladin(5): Lightning Reflexes
7-P 07: Paladin(6)
8-P 08: Paladin(7)
9-P 09: Paladin(8): Weapon Focus Bastard Sword
10-CT 10: Champion of Torm(1)
11-CT 11: Champion of Torm(2) Improved Critical: Bastard Sword
12-CT 12: Champion of Torm(3): Extra Smiting
13-CT 13: Champion of Torm(4): Power Attack
14-CT 14: Champion of Torm(5)
15-CT 15: Champion of Torm(6): Cleave, Toughness
16-CT 16: Champion of Torm(7)
17-CT 17: Champion of Torm(8): Great Cleave
18-CT 18: Champion of Torm(9): Skill Focus Craft Armor
19-CT 19: Champion of Torm(10): Blind Fight
20-R 20: Rogue (2) Skill dump into tumble and UMD {Evasion}

Epic Feats (all epic levels are CoT)

Great Smiting X
Armor Skin
Great Str 3

Legendary feats

LSA Tumble
Overwhelming Critical
Devastating Critical
Great Cha 1
Epic Weapon Focus Bastard Sword
Epic Prowess
Legendary Weapon Focus Bastard Sword

This new level progression nets 1 more pre-epic feat which I chose Skill focus Craft Armor, take what ever you wish. I took Starlandra's advice and switch to 2 Rogue 8 Paladin 50 CoT as you still have enough UMD for scrolls but you get max CoT abilities at the cost of 1 ab.

Oh and Smite Evil Critical hits are awesome. Check out this damage just from the testing chamber, naked at lvl 40.



Thanks again SG and Star, I am very happy with the results of this build.

~DL

[sabregirl]

Finally fixed the feats on this one. I guess I prefer getting full UMD . . .just in case. Otherwise similar to what Ty went with on pharlan though he did 28 CoT levels.

-S