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Post by flay on Apr 23, 2008 15:35:15 GMT
Here ya go Flay. Just wondering if I should take the Acid immune RDD route or the Fire immune RDD route. hmmmm I think electrical immune is the way to go. It may sound strange, but I think its better once you get fully geared up and put your hands on a bahamut's ruination or signet of mammon. Since you can't use pentative, you have to cover eletrical some other way. There aren't any BUR elec+magic rings. However if you don't bother with teldar's toolbelt, you'll have more options available. Blue, green, black, and red are all solid choices for dragonblooded. Two of the BUR magic rings have cold, and the third BUR magic ring has sonic instead of something more desirable, so I think white is the choice that would give the most gear trouble if you want magic immunity.
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Post by StrykerOfChaos on Apr 23, 2008 21:39:56 GMT
Here ya go Flay. Just wondering if I should take the Acid immune RDD route or the Fire immune RDD route. hmmmm I think electrical immune is the way to go. It may sound strange, but I think its better once you get fully geared up and put your hands on a bahamut's ruination or signet of mammon. Since you can't use pentative, you have to cover eletrical some other way. There aren't any BUR elec+magic rings. However if you don't bother with teldar's toolbelt, you'll have more options available. Blue, green, black, and red are all solid choices for dragonblooded. Two of the BUR magic rings have cold, and the third BUR magic ring has sonic instead of something more desirable, so I think white is the choice that would give the most gear trouble if you want magic immunity. Why can't he use the pentavite shield as an RDD? They become large sized when they receive their dragon shape. ^_^
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Post by flay on Apr 24, 2008 11:09:09 GMT
Why can't he use the pentavite shield as an RDD? They become large sized when they receive their dragon shape. ^_^ Because final base dexterity is 24 in this build.
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Post by Onyx [SL] on Apr 25, 2008 7:40:42 GMT
I do have the DB Great Sword plus I should be able to use Scrolls so I'll get me some Keen scrolls just in case. I'll take electric as you suggested. Do you have to find the secret altar at level 2 RDD? plus what medium armor do you suggest I wear flay?
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Post by flay on Apr 25, 2008 19:47:24 GMT
Once you get the tags you may want to wear Dance of Blades (Phleg), Chainmail of the Weave (Malb), and Scales of the Dragonborn (Malad).
I haven't seen the new Rona armors, one of them might be better pre-hells. I used some UR medium which I forget the name of. Keep in mind you can also use light armor with this build.
So once you get Min tag, the swamp devil hide might be a good option. The hell set medium armors unfortunately don't have any elemental immunities.
Hopefully the new Rona armors are interesting.
Which armor you'll want to wear mostly depends on what other gear you're wearing.
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Post by mishimayukio on Apr 25, 2008 21:39:11 GMT
With dex that high it's worth considering using light armor. Using the bur light would put your AC 3 higher than medium armor, 5 higher with demi stats.
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Post by Onyx [SL] on Apr 26, 2008 12:32:57 GMT
Reincarnated him Yesterday (thanks to uncanny and mal helping me to get to the altars on time ) with weapon focus Greatsword. Old Eclipse had better ab,saves and HP's. But man can hit like a tank. Doing awsome damage I'm excited w/divine might and crit topping around 500 plus damage (against the bandits and orcs) per hit plus my AC is sweet. I'll have to look for better armor though because his old armor is obsolete. Took Blue dragon as you suggested he looks like he would do very well in Malb. I don't have the STR arti but do have the INT arti. If I took that instead wouldn't that help me avoid confusion against the Malb boss plus I'm able to dominate other creatures which is cool. If I did take the INT arti at lvl 55 wondering if also at BG level 9 you don't just max out Taunt you can get up to 23 skill on it at that level plus also more in legendary levels to it . (Found out I had only 5 put into taunt with CHR bonus plus 6 and items plus 40 came up with 51 taunt)
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Post by flay on Apr 26, 2008 18:38:46 GMT
I'd suggest trying to get the strength artifact on this build.
On a lot of tanks, intelligence artifact is very reccomended. But for this build I think its a waste. I would much rather have stun immunity, +1 ab, and an attack that makes enemies explode in an orgy of blood and guts.
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Post by flay on Apr 28, 2008 6:14:44 GMT
Maybe you could work gear choices around it to make taunt work. You could get 23 skill ranks + 11 charisma + 50 gear/song = 94 taunt. Before hell penalties. I've heard hell penalties are applied after the +50 buff cap; so in deeper layers, where it counts, you might have trouble making use of it. I can't remember hell concentration scores.
However, it would severely limit your gear options. I don't think its a good idea. If you have a gear setup figured out for it, and you know it would work against the concentration you'll be rolling against in Malad and deeper, it might be a good option.
If you do go for taunt, make sure you pick a voiceset that doesn't have a taunt sound nor chat.
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Post by Senaattori on May 2, 2008 9:15:45 GMT
Half-Elf Dragonblooded
Alignment: Any evil Sorcerer 1 Blackguard 9 RDD 30 Level progression: 1 sorcerer, 10 rdd, 9 bg in pre-epic. Ability Scores (before/after salamander) There is a typo!! its dragonblooded not salamander
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Post by bort on May 9, 2008 2:26:28 GMT
Was looking at making an RDD tank and realised I'd pretty much recreated your build, but with a different subrace - figured this was probably the best place to post it. Haven't tested it yet, hopefully i didn't make too many mistakes Cheers, -Bort STR @ L60 70 : 16 (base) + 2 (subby) + 10 (lvlup) + 10 (LL lvlup) + 12 (items) + 20 (RDD) = 30 STR mod
AB 97 : 16 (pre-epic) + 10 (epic) + 1 (WF) + 2 (EWF) + 3 (LWF) + 1 (Epic Prowess) + 30 (Str) + 20 (magic) + 12 (LBAB) + 2 (Craft Weapon)
AC 135 ur (137 bur) = 10 (base) +10 (rdd) +6 (tumble) +8 (dex) +5 (base armor) +17(armor enh) +19 (pentavite) +4 (gird) +16 (defl) +16 (nat) +20 (dodge) +2 (armor skin) +2 (craft armor)Race: Elf (taunt and umd crossclass) Subrace: Undying +2 str, dex, wis, int, cha; +4 con; dodge, luck of heroes, great fortitude, lightning reflexes, iron will build: 2 bard / 8 fighter / 30 rdd progression: 8 fighter - 1 bard (8 lore) - 10 rdd - 1 bard (umd/taunt/tumble dump)- 20 rdd stats (after subrace mods): str 16 (18) dex 14 (16) con 12 (16) wis 8 (10) int 14 (16) cha 12 (14) all stats into STR rdd bonus feats: 14 rdd : epic toughness 18 rdd : epic toughness 22 rdd : epic toughness 26 rdd : epic toughness 30 rdd : epic toughness fighter bonus feats 1 weapon focus (martial) 2 power attack 4 weapon specialization 6 cleave 8 great cleave feats: 1 blind fight 3 mobility 6 expertise 9 spring attack 12 improved expertise 15 toughness 18 improved critical 21 epic toughness 24 epic toughness 27 epic toughness 30 epic toughness 33 epic toughness 36 great dex 39 great dex (help w/ kd checks) 42 overwhelming crit 45 devastating crit 48 armor skin 51 epic weapon focus (martial) 54 LWF (martial) 57 epic prowess 60 ESF listen
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Post by mishimayukio on May 9, 2008 4:18:00 GMT
I think you are forgetting the 8 lore prerequisite for RDD.
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Post by Senaattori on May 9, 2008 7:23:45 GMT
yeah. You would have to take 3(?) sorc lvls to get that with undying
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Post by bort on May 9, 2008 8:31:52 GMT
Oops Had to dump Sorc and BG (no divine might ) in place of Bard and Fighter in order to keep 16 bab and taunt. Still untested as yet, but hopefully i haven't made any more mistakes might have to drop ESF listen for Legendary Luck cheers, -bort
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Post by Senaattori on May 14, 2008 11:47:42 GMT
My dragonblooded version. went with WDD and and with base DEX 18 so I could use slag, pentavite etc shields Half-Elf Dragonblooded Alignment: Any evil Sorcerer 1 Blackguard 9 RDD 30 Level progression: 1 sorcerer, 10 rdd, 9 bg in pre-epic. Ability Scores (before/after Dragonblooded) Str 16/18 Dex 14 Con 12/14 Int 14/16 Wis 8/6 Cha 12/14 All ability scores increases in STR in pre-legendary levels, 2 to CHA and 4 in dex in legendary levels, rest to STR Skills: Lore 3 (must be taken at character creation) Hide 5 (take this at level 11 for the blackguard prerequisite) Discipline 63 Parry 63 Tumble 30 Craft Armor 63 Craft Weapon 63 Listen 63 Concentration 63 +extra skillpoints to lore at level 60 Pre-Epic Feats Luck of Heroes Power Attack Cleave Great Cleave Divine Might (must be taken on bg level) Weapon Focus Improved Crititcal Epic Feats Epic Toughness X Epic Weapon Focus Epic Prowess Legendary Feats Legendary Luck Legendary Weapon Focus Overwhelming Critical Devastating Critical Armor Skin Great Strength I Great Strength II Final Ability Scores with RDD secret, +12 gear, and str artifact at lvl 60 Str 66 (+28) Dex 30 (+10) Con 36 (+13) Int 34 (+12) Wis 20 (+5) Cha 34 (+12) Fort 77 Ref 67 Will 67 AB: 26 bab + 7 feats + 27 str + 20 enhacement + 12 leg + 3 craft weapon -1 size = 95 ab
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