Disarm/KD WM 10 Fighter/29 WM/1 Rogue

[mishimayukio]

OK here is my WM build. Had a lot of people ask about it and decided to post it in public forums

Stats shown are with single demi.


Race: Kolyarut human. For other subraces you must sadly give up the dev crit line to fit in all the feats. Viable subraces are stinger, kurai and possibly earth genasi.

Stats creation (subrace) [60 buffed]
STR 18 (23) [62]
DEX 10 (15) [27]
CON 14 (18) [30]
INT 14 (16) [28]
WIS 8 (6) [18]
CHA 8 (6) [18]

Skills: max disc every WM level, tumble starting at level 43, parry, CA, CW during LLs, and dump 43 points into UMD at level 40.

Stats: all STR

Classes: lvl 1-5 fighter, 6-15 WM, 16-20 fighter, 21-39 WM, 40 rogue

Feats: (feats marked (WM) are taken with WM epic bonus feats, do not take these feats with normal feats.)
Blooded, Luck of heroes, exotic WP(optional, can use a martial weapon and take disarm to free up a LL feat)
Expertise
Weapon focus
WW attack
iron will, Weapon of Choice
Improved Critical
great fortitude
Blind fight
power attack
cleave, great cleave
disarm
great str 1
over crit (WM)
great str 2
dev crit (WM)
great str 3
armor skin (WM)
great str 4
epic prowess (WM)
great str 5
Epic Weapon Focus (WM)
great str 6
epic toughness 1 (WM)
great str 7

LL feats:
LSA tumble
LL luck
LL will
epic will
improved disarm
Legendary Weapon Focus
optional feat, I took legendary fort

Artifact: STR
Pandect: KD

Variants:

Drop exotic prof and use the optional feat to take 2 more great str.

(not recommended)Drop the rogue level and take another WM level for 2 more AB. The reason this is not recommended is because to be the primary puller in deep layers you need access to BBoD and GS scrolls. Being able to use clairity, stf, gust, and remove fear wands/scrolls also makes you a boon to the party.

[mishimayukio]

Will update with other subrace options when I can.

[mishimayukio]

Placeholder post so I don't run into the same issue as my rogue build thread.

[Pulpo]

Mish i am doing this buid but have a question:
1. Would it be better, Hell wise, To give the starting stat of dex a 13 and lowering str to 17? This would give you 30 Dex for the hells and can make more checks.
2. Would it be better to make this a half orc build if your NOT going to use an exotic weapon? Then you could use a large weapon in 1 hand and should net you a better disarm and KD %.

Thanks

Thanks

[mishimayukio]

Any higher than 15 base dex will prevent you from using pentavite after demi, and starting with an even str means you have 1 less feat because you need to take an even number of great str.

For #2, half-orc is not a large race, so you are stuck with a medium weapon. Plus the loss of 126 skill points is crippling.

[MankerTheGanker]

what about using heavypick instead of bastard sword? the range woul be less, but one more multiplier, plus you save the exotic feat, can you take imp-disarm pre-epic? (not sure)if so you could take two more gstr feats... in all though i have a char with this same build and he's great, looking for his stygia tag now, they're really solid chars even in the low-40s, crazy dmg output... very nice job!

[phalthallus]

This looks very similar to my reincarnation idea for my WM. First time through I skipped Dev Crit to take all of the weapon buffs in 2 weapons: a medium one, and a large one, to make disarming easier (negating that -4 when trying to disarm PF's and Male's). Do you consider the ability to knock creatures down pretty powerful in the Hells though? I've never partied with anyone who uses that ability very often, so I don't have any way of saying how useful it is.

[the1kobra]

I've actually found KDing very useful with my WM, actually, I've been pretty much spamming it constantly ever since I got my hands on the pandect. It's a very powerful tool, it can neutralize Kokrachans, Spinogons, the list goes on. Albeit, I think being large is a significant bonus for KDing, since there may be some creatures that can't be KDed if you're medium, or at least, you get a 4 higher check for being large.

[Raj]

just remember not to KD the foes your mage used level 6 bigby on, because that is going to cancel the kd effect ( if they're mind immune ).

[somes]

Can you also make a stinger version, please? ^^

[mishimayukio]

Well, I got this build x5 demi this morning. It was by far my favorite tank for the past year. Considering retiring it now, or possibly turn her into staffmaster, but I'm undecided.

[kebargo]

Imho Undying is pretty good subby for your build Yue. It would mean 4 str less, but u loose nothing more, will test it in chamber and report eventually.

[boarlag]

I second the stinger notion when ya get around to it. Awesome looking build you have here, cant wait to try it!

[Werehound Silverfang]

Made a stinger version of my own already. At level 43, with a +7 wep he has 79 AB, however he didnt take a rogue level for UMD. He has Imp KD and IMP Disarm, LSA Tumble, Dev crit, and pretty decent saves. Ill post it later in a new thread. Gotta write up everything. Hasn't read a pandect, so if you do, then you could free up two pre-epic feats for something usefull like iron will or lightning reflexes, although the latter is pretty good in medium armor.

[busybumblebee]

Could this be built with Juggernaut? If so could you let me know what stats you would recommend?