Da Stoned Gnomephant (Pariah 20 Sorc/20 Barbarian)

[CataclysmicDeath]

Base Race: Gnome
Subrace: Maelephant

Gnomes get Illusion for Free

Maelephant Stats are:

STR +4, CON +6
Heavy Armour Proficiency
Toughness
Epic Skill Focus Intimidate and Taunt

Control Class Barbarian Build.

Barbarians get +4 Str and +4 Con in LL's

Stats
(Starting Stats/Lvl 60 Naked/Lvl 60 Fully Geared/Demix1/Demix2)

STR 6/14/26/28/30
DEX 6/ 6/18/20/22
CON 20/58/72/74/76 (Includes Con Arti in the Lvl 60 Stats)
INT 14/14/26/28/30
WIS 8/ 8/20/22/24
CHA 15/19/31/33/35

Boulder Pebledasher
Level	Class	Feats	Skill points	Ability Points
1	Barbarian	- Armor Proficiency (heavy) - Armor Proficiency (light) - Armor Proficiency (medium) - Assist Other - Barbarian Fast Movement - Barbarian Rage (1x per day) - Battle Training vs. Giants - Battle Training vs. Goblins - Battle Training vs. Reptilians - Blooded - Command Targeter - Epic Skill Focus (Intimidate) - Epic Skill Focus (Taunt) - Hardiness vs. Illusions - Low-light Vision - Mount Actions - Shield Proficiency - Skill Affinity (Concentration) - Skill Affinity (Listen) - Small Stature - Spell Focus (Illusion) - Toughness - Weapon Proficiency (martial) - Weapon Proficiency (simple)	- Craft Armor +4 - Discipline +4 - Lore +4	/
2	Barbarian	- Uncanny Dodge I	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
3	Sorcerer	- Spell Focus (Transmutation) - Summon Familiar	- Concentration +6 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +6	/
4	Barbarian	/	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +2 - Lore +1	Constitution
5	Barbarian	- Barbarian Rage (2x per day)	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
6	Sorcerer	- Greater Spell Focus (Transmutation)	- Concentration +3 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +3	/
7	Barbarian	- Uncanny Dodge II	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +2 - Lore +1	/
8	Barbarian	/	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	Constitution
9	Sorcerer	- Greater Spell Focus (Illusion)	- Concentration +3 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +3	/
10	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
11	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
12	Sorcerer	- Metamagic (Still Spell)	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	Constitution
13	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
14	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
15	Sorcerer	- Metamagic (Extend Spell)	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
16	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	Constitution
17	Sorcerer	- Armor Skin - Automatic Still Spell I - Automatic Still Spell II - Automatic Still Spell III	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
18	Barbarian	- Metamagic (Empower Spell)	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +10 - Lore +1	/
19	Barbarian	- Barbarian Rage (3x per day)	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
20	Barbarian	/	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	Constitution
21	Barbarian	- Epic Character - Great Constitution I - Uncanny Dodge III	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
22	Barbarian	- Damage Reduction 1	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
23	Barbarian	- Barbarian Rage (4x per day)	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
24	Sorcerer	- Spell Penetration	- Concentration +7 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +7	Constitution
25	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
26	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
27	Sorcerer	- Greater Spell Penetration	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
28	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	Constitution
29	Barbarian	- Uncanny Dodge IV	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +6 - Lore +1	/
30	Barbarian	- Damage Reduction 2 - Great Constitution II	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
31	Barbarian	- Greater Rage (4x per day)	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
32	Barbarian	- Greater Rage (5x per day) - Uncanny Dodge V	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	Constitution
33	Barbarian	- Damage Reduction 3 - Great Constitution III	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
34	Barbarian	/	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
35	Barbarian	- Uncanny Dodge VI+	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	/
36	Barbarian	- Damage Reduction 4 - Great Constitution IV - Greater Rage	- Craft Armor +1 - Discipline +1 - Lore +1	Constitution
37	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +9 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +9	/
38	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
39	Sorcerer	- Epic Spell Focus (Transmutation)	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	/
40	Sorcerer	/	- Concentration +1 - Craft Armor +1 - Lore +1 - Spellcraft +1	Constitution
Legendary	Base class	- Epic Spell Focus (Evocation) - Epic Spell Focus (Illusion) - Epic Spell Penetration - Legendary Barbarian - Legendary Character - Legendary Skill Affinity (Tumble) - Legendary Spell Focus (Evocation) - Legendary Spell Focus (Illusion) - Legendary Spell Focus (Transmutation) - Legendary Spell Penetration - Paragon Character - Paragon Spell Focus (Transmutation) - Paragon Spell Penetration	/	/

Feats taken from reading Tome of Ancient Lore:
Epic Spell Focus (Evocation)

AC 117
Saves 75/43/47

Cata

[kingcamaro]

ok, im gonna pick your brains for a bit hehe.

where do you plan to go with this build?
what spells do you have? (i noticed conj)
why do you have 3 metamagic feats? (namely empowered... i can understand extend)
why have you gone for the LSA tumble feat?
can you really get by easily with such a low will save? (47?)

[CataclysmicDeath]

I plan to take this build through every area of the Mod, it will eventually have every LL Tag in the game, including Rona, Elysium, Abo and Nessus.

Conj is for the new HG Conjuration spells. I use mostly Orbs, Polar Ray, Flesh to Stone, Wierd and Great Thunderclap.

Empowered means I get an extra bunch of spells. Having extra casts of Flesh to Stone or Great Thunderclap is a good idea, especially when the main point of a Pariah is to stone things, running out of rests can be annoying, with extra metamagics I don't have to rest so often.

I would have thought LSA Tumble was obvious, maxing tumble increases AC.

Can I relly get by with such a low Will Save...yes, easily no. But then I have never been one to worry about maxing everything. And yet despite this fact my builds still somehow work. I am doing just fine. Getting Amnie'd is a pain but nothing I am not used to. It isn't ideal of course, ideally I would love every build I make to have 200ab, 300ac and 90 minimum to all saves, unfortunately thats isn't gunna happen. It is a matter of what you are used to, I'm just as used to playing low save builds as I am high save builds. I have no worse a time with either.

Cata

[darc]

How do you manage so many feats in both Pre-Epic and Epic? Every other build has 7 of each but you've got 10 and 9, that's like 5 more feats! ;D

Would you share your spell selection?

[CataclysmicDeath]

Hmmm not actually sure why I would end up with more feats than others........those are the feats I took tho lolz.

As for spell selection I took Flesh to Stone, Wierds, Polar Ray and a few Orbs and MS.

I'll post a more in depth spell list when I get time to log in my Pariah and go thru em

Cata

[CataclysmicDeath]

Correct

Cata

[CataclysmicDeath]

Updated build with Level Progression and Skills and Feats taken by level to make it easier to read.

Here are the Spell Selections I took for those who wanted to know:

Level 9

Meteor Swarm
Weird
Bigby's Crushing Hand

Level 8

Polar Ray
Greater Sanctuary
Bigby's clenched Fist

Level 7

Greater Orb of Cold
Greater Orb of Acid
Great Thunderclap

Level 6

Flesh to Stone
Stone to Flesh
Tenser's Transformation

Level 5

Energy Buffer
Mestil's Acid Sheath
Vitriolic Sphere
Ball Lightning

Level 4

Bestow Curse
Elemental Shield
Stoneskin
Evard's Black Tentacles

Level 3

Keen Edge
Greater Magic Weapon
Flame Arrow
Displacement

Level 2

Ghostly Visage
Stone Bones
Death Armour
FLurry of Fumes
Snowball Swarm

Level 1

Corrosive Grasp
Shocking Grasp
Expeditious Retreat
Horizikal's Boom
Magic Weapon

Cata

[MightyKhan]

greater stoneskin as a level 8 spell? how did you do that?

[CataclysmicDeath]

Cause I am amazingly uber lol

No honestly it should be Greater Sanctuary not Greater Stoneskin, I can't read my own handwriting hehe. Changed spell list to say Sanctuary instead of Stoneskin lolz.
Thanks

Cata

[jazzadellic]

You started with 15 charisma, and you say it ends up at 19 ? I don't see where those 4 points of charisma come from, is that a typo?

Also you can't start with 6 dex, the minimum you can have is 8.

[bort]

Jan 15, 2010 22:49:47 GMT jazzadellic said:

You started with 15 charisma, and you say it ends up at 19 ? I don't see where those 4 points of charisma come from, is that a typo?

Also you can't start with 6 dex, the minimum you can have is 8.

Curse of the Pariah
- The Accursed Pariah's base Dexterity score is set to 6, his Charisma increased by 4, and he is transformed into a Large stone appearance.

Above quote (along with lots of other useful info) found at the Quasi-class Documentation link within the Class/Ability/Spell Customizations subforum

[jazzadellic]

ok thanks, wouldn't have thought you got a stat boost from quasi class ;o) I did read it but it's alot of information to memorize on 1 reading don't you think? ;o)

[bort]

Jan 15, 2010 23:42:37 GMT jazzadellic said:

ok thanks, wouldn't have thought you got a stat boost from quasi class ;o) I did read it but it's alot of information to memorize on 1 reading don't you think? ;o)

Absolutely, there's a huge amount to take in due to the vast number of customizations on HG, even for base classes.. i usually end up with several tabs open (build list, class changes, spell changes, nwnwiki etc) when looking at making a new character or reincarnating an old one. That's a large part of what makes this server so great though

[jazzadellic]

i'm just curious how do you determine the control class for a build with 20/20? I noticed it said in the build that the cc is barbarian, but how is that determined? Does the altar of legends ask you which one you want as cc or does it auto-matically set this build to cc barb?

[Torin]

Jan 19, 2010 10:25:02 GMT jazzadellic said:

i'm just curious how do you determine the control class for a build with 20/20? I noticed it said in the build that the cc is barbarian, but how is that determined? Does the altar of legends ask you which one you want as cc or does it auto-matically set this build to cc barb?

For a 20/20 build, CC is the first class you chose. Take Barabrian at level 1, then your CC is Barbarian for a 20/20 build.