Note: everything I say about PWK refers to Abyss mobs and Abyss mobs only.
PWK without spell focus in Divinitation is still good. You need SpF Div to instant kill Paragons, GSpF for superiors and ESpF for elites. Divination draughts count as an additional spell focus feat, so even with only tia staff or some other caster item with SpF div you can PWK superiors if you use a draught. With a GSpF item (ego or augmenter) you can kill elites with a draught.
Cold damage is pretty good in Abyss too. Acid is mainly for Balors, unfortunately acid damage spells are all conjuration spells. I just did an Abyss run with my sorcerer without conjuration focus and Vitriolic Sphere did pitiful damage against Balors (like 130 on a successful save, which was 19/20 of the time since we had no bard or cleric). If you are concerned about acid damage then you could take Melf's Acid Arrow instead of Vocalize. Empowered (that's better than maximized for this spell) it does quite some good damage even on successful save and it's rather low level.
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 8, 2012 10:39:50 GMT
Yeah knew u were talking about PWK for Abyss not nething else, for some reason I never think about things like Draughts. I do use em lol just don't think about em when building and such, guess I should really.
As for Vocalise only took it for Nessus, I never really use it so that's a pretty good suggestion, guess I'll be swapping that out next level up along with GS for Polar Ray
I got a whole level to go to see how the new spell choices work out though so I may even change me mind again heh.
Will update the spell suggestions next level up if I do change my mind
You know my advice is always well intentioned. I still love disint and have it on my sorc, even though many casters have shunned it.
Sorry I assumed you had necro from the earlier mention of CoD, I should have check. PwK is nice, but ONLY for abyss.
I do think GS is very overrated as a sorc spell selection. GS pots from styg are enough in a fix, then a timestop or GS from an item (I carry 2 chain of solidarity in my ring bag), are good enough if you need longer term (or a scroll). Personally i find Incendiary Cloud, which is Evo based, an amazing source of DoT damage output in many areas, but particularly in the abyss.
Cold is an amazing damage type in Abyss, and doesn't heal many bad nasties (balor, marlith, etc). Fire is nice and effective on bosses, but cold is probably #1. I recently switch from polar ray to freezing sphere on my sorc. the AOE shape is MUCH better and allows you to hit a lot more mobs in the cluster of the fight.
I hear you about tenser's for HP..and if you were doing solo or small group maybe it would make sense. but if you are just running 10-man, it think your better off with an offensive selection.
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 9, 2012 7:42:39 GMT
Sorry, but even in a 10 man run things can go wrong. I'd hate to loose a Nessus win or a Cania cause I couldn't get that quick HP boost. Not a huge thing I agree but it's happened enuf on runs I've done to make me wanna keep it. As for Abyss, most of the people I'd run it with don't know it well enough for me to go all out offense.
Besides, I do solo and do small party runs occasionally ;p
For others dropping tenders might be worth it but for me not so much.
And I do appreciate the comments/advice/time people give builds I post. Just cause I may not allus agree doesn't mean I'm not grateful ya took time out