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Post by supertrooper33 on Sept 2, 2007 18:17:26 GMT
Some ideas for some new secret subraces - I am not giving names for them, as I am sure the dm team or others can come up with better names
Dwarf base - -2 Wis, +3 Cha, Curse Song, Dodge - for those dwarven warchanter builds everyone wants
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Post by supertrooper33 on Sept 2, 2007 19:35:38 GMT
Elf Base - +3 wis, -1 str, zen archery - wise guardian of the forest type
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Post by FunkySwerve on Sept 3, 2007 1:33:49 GMT
We arent' ignoring these, just superbusy atm. Funky
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Post by DragonChyld on Sept 3, 2007 2:32:35 GMT
"Warforged" (secret subrace) - requires Dwarf: Favored Class Fighter (changes Appearance) CON +2, WIS -2, CHA -2, Living Construct, Free feat: Cleave, Free feat: Epic Skill focus Parry, Breaths Water, increases character size to large, reduced base movement rate - slow "Gloaming" (secret subrace) - requires Halfling: Favored Class Bard DEX +2, CHA +2, STR -2, WIS -2 Free Feat: Skill focus Move Silently, Free Feat, Spell Focus Illusion, able to walk on quicksand Using this chart www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules/DnD3.5Index-Races.pdfas a kind of reference for all you others out there who want to add suggestions ~ DC
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Post by johannhowitzer on Sept 3, 2007 12:50:09 GMT
A Dwarf subrace that changes appearance? There's something we don't have! 25% crit immunity might be a little extreme for a secret subby though - people would end up using it for everything. Not really what secret-tier subraces are intended to be, I think.
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Post by wnxhalfwingseen on Sept 3, 2007 16:56:49 GMT
however it would be secret tier to give him 10% physical immunity. which could work just as well
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Post by DragonChyld on Sept 3, 2007 17:07:20 GMT
Slow movement is a HUGE disadvantage, how many Half Ogres do you see? and thats got more STR than anything other than a BUR, peeps still don't use it Add to that the race does not have an AB tied stat increase, and I think it balances
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Post by FunkySwerve on Sept 3, 2007 17:50:52 GMT
% crit immunity is not feasible for subraces. That's why it's not being done for pariah. Funky
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Post by wnxhalfwingseen on Sept 3, 2007 18:00:29 GMT
% crit immunity is not feasible for subraces. That's why it's not being done for pariah. Funky Juggernaut** pariah is my fav quasi not a subrace
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Post by cathedralmaster on Sept 3, 2007 18:21:53 GMT
% crit immunity is not feasible for subraces. That's why it's not being done for pariah. Funky Would a bonus to parry (like a free +40 to parry for instance) that indirectly results in crit immunity be acceptable?
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Post by FunkySwerve on Sept 3, 2007 19:41:29 GMT
It's possible sure. Not sure how ideal it is, though, so I'd love to hear discussion. Funky
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Post by the1kobra on Sept 3, 2007 20:12:33 GMT
I would like to implement this one, if it is at all possible... "Cuddlekobold" - (Secret Subrace) Requires Human (Changes appearance) (Changes size to: Small) Str -2 Dex +2 Cha +2 Free Feats: Rapid Reload, Weapon Focus: Light Crossbow, Darkvision, Dodge Skills: Search +2 The idea was to make something that would make an ideal crossbow rogue or any other type of crossbow character.
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Post by DragonChyld on Sept 3, 2007 20:58:40 GMT
Updated Warforged, took away crit immunity, added ESF Parry
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Post by wnxhalfwingseen on Sept 3, 2007 21:31:43 GMT
Would a bonus to parry (like a free +40 to parry for instance) that indirectly results in crit immunity be acceptable? +40 parry is = to 1% crit immunity in full plate and tower shield. any race with parry would be dex based IMO as parry involves quick reflexes and fast reaction times and not brute strength anyone can swing a sword but it takes a master to make a sword sing through the air. I would much prefer a class with the idea of crit immunity in mind perhaps gain 5-15% psuedoconceal vs crits. similiar to what fighters once had.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Sept 3, 2007 23:23:56 GMT
I would much prefer a class with the idea of crit immunity in mind perhaps gain 5-15% psuedoconceal vs crits. similiar to what fighters once had. That's nice, but again, not possible for subraces. Funky
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