Quasiclass - Shadow Disciple

[wnxhalfwingseen]

The Shadow Disciple had realized the dragonblood in his veins is that of a Shadow Dragon and his natural ability and manipulation of the shadows become apparent. The Shadow Disciple seeks to enhance these abilities.

Requirements: Shadow Dancer Level 10, Dragon Disciple Level 2, Stealth, Weapon Focus Dart
The Shadow Disciple may not take more than 2 Dragon Disciple levels before attaining Shadow Disciple status nor may they have chosen a Color of Dragon.
The Elemental Immunity of the Dragon Disciple is replaced with Negetive energy Immunity
The Regular Dragon Disciple abilities change as followed for a Shadow Disciple:
Dragon Disciple Stat Bonus
Level 4 +1 Dexterity
Level 7 +2 Charisma
Level 9 +1 Dexterity
Level 10 +2 Intelligence
Level 15 +1 Dexterity
Level 20 +1 Dexterity + 2 Charisma
Level 25 +2 Dexterity
Level 30 +2 Intelligence + 1 Dexterity
Level 35 +1 Dexterity
Level 40 +1 Intelligence
Level 45 +2 Dexterity +1 Intelligence +2 Charisma
For a Total of: +10 Dexterity, +6 Charisma +6 Intelligence
The Feat Requirements for this benefit is cut in half (only 5 epic toughness feats needed total)

Dragon Disciple Breath (Requires Level 10 Dragon Disciple)
includes Legendary Levels for damage if CC is Dragon Disciple and for the SR and AC damage if CC is Shadow Dancer
The Shadow Disciple Deals Xd12 Negetive Energy Damage Where x = (1+Dragon Disciple Level/2) To a Cap of 23
The Shadow Disciples Breath Also reduces Conceal by Y%.
Where y = (1+Shadow Dancer Level/2) to a cap of 20
Debuffs Last for 10 rounds.

Upon Becoming a Shadow Disciple The Disciple acquires Self Concealment I, Self Concealment II, Self Concealment III, Self Concealment IV, Self Concealment V.
This Concealment increases by 1% every Shadow Dancer Level above 20 to a cap of 70% at level 50 Shadow Dancer.

Shadow Evade Provides a Shadow Dodge Effect, which allows the Shadow Disciple to avoid damage as a seperate concealment check from any source this "concealment" si equivilent to 2% per Charisma Modifier +.5% Per Dexterity Modifier to a cap of 40% this "concealment" is unaffected by blind fight and listen.

The Shadow Disciple gains 1 AB when using darts for every 2 points of base charisma above 10 this AB is outside the +20 limit

The Shadow Disciple has the ability to create Shadow darts once per day these darts are infinite and last until resting and have +1 Enhancement Per 3 Shadow Disciple Levels including Legendary levels, Cap of +15 and deals 1 Fire Electric Acid sonic damage per 3 Dragon Disciple levels, Each Dart also deals 1d8+Shadow Dancer Levelx1.5 Negetive Energy damage

The Shadow Dragon's Curse song if applicable only applies 1% Negetive Vulnerability per 5 Shadow Dancer Levels and 1% per 2 Dragon Disciple Levels This does not stack with any other vulnerabilities or itself.



Note: I made alot of abilities for this Quasi as many as i could think of The ones that i feel make the class are underlined.

[StrykerOfChaos]

I see a couple problems with this REALLY COOL quasi idea.

1) I don't see any idea for a CC Shadowdancer (unless I missed it)

2) What about regular Shadow Evade? Does it retain it's normal functions such as
-Immunity to Death Magic
-100% Neg Protection (this would become useless)
-GS Effect (This could make the toon very very very uber)
-Extra atk/round at 50SD (Again, very uber)

Also, I would recommed making the requirements for the class a bit higher. First off, to obtain SD or RDD you have to have a normal class as those are both quasi classes. It would have to be sorc or bard because RDD requires that you have either one. I doubt they can script in the option to take RDD seperate from the sorc or bard option.

Does it become small sized, to match it's background? Or does it retrieve large size due to it's RDD background?

Also, you only require WF Dart and Stealth for feats.

I will read through it again a few more times before I head home I'm sure. Will post more later because SD and RDD are two of my favorite classes. Great concept, but the finer details still need some work. ^_^

-Stryker

[wnxhalfwingseen]

Thats why i post it here, for tweaking ^^ the way i figured on some of these, is that the requirements force you to have 5 levels of bard 2 Dragon then 10 SD (without certain races) eliminating totally splashing and well you go Dragon for stats and offense or SD for evasion and defense SD bonus feats allow great dexterity to be taken (taking some of the dex bonus of RDD back) along with getting epic dodge.

as an answer to the size question, I would think it would be a medium sized draggy, if your small race you get bumped to medium if your large you get shrunk to medium and if your medium you stay. darts are tiny, and unable to be used by large.

the Benefits of Shadow Evade stay on as normal.

I think im going to describe the benefits of each CC in detail. for you and others.

Shadow Dancer CC
Self Conceal provides 70% permanent conceal for a SD CC. (decided on 70 as a number that is useful but not all consuming like 85 or 90 from a staffmaster or illusion mage though could be nerfed to 1% every 2 SD lvls above 20 cap of 65%)

THE darts should read + 1d8+Shadow Dancer lvlx1.5 not Shadow Disciple. so thats another benefit.

An SD gets another conceal as a secondary check up to 40% although the RDD gets this too it cannot be cast infinitely that way.

with a moderate split but still going SD CC (10 dragon lvls) the Conceal drop is maximized on breath.

I would see a SD CC going a bit higher on Charisma to max out 2ndary conceal and still keep AB high. The SD CC would be using darts and Either Shadow Daze or curse song to make enemies vuln to his darts. and be able to stay protected behind his double conceal wall

Dragon Disciple CC:
The Dragon disciple gets a large stat boost and high damage on his breath and more elemental damage on his darts.
The Dragon Disciple would pump up Dexterity as much as possible and rely on his 50% perm conceal and a temporary 40% backup conceal (very temporary) along his AC to protect him.

[FunkySwerve]

We will never have a dex-based DDisciple, as the ac would be absurd.

Funky

[starlandra]

would it matter then? we can already get 141+ easy enough which is higher then you ever need. a char with 161 would be the same roll (20) as a 141.

[uncanny]

Jul 10, 2008 9:07:51 GMT FunkySwerve said:

We will never have a dex-based DDisciple, as the ac would be absurd.

Funky

Jul 10, 2008 17:57:58 GMT starlandra said:

would it matter then? we can already get 141+ easy enough which is higher then you ever need. a char with 161 would be the same roll (20) as a 141.

Oh dear... I feel a disturbance in the Force..

[wnxhalfwingseen]

Well the ac Would be (going to use brownie as its the highest dex boost)
80 dex so thats 35 ac + 14 for robes + 17 (shield) +20 +16+16+16+10 thats 144 ac. assuming your using a shield. I didnt think that was too much considering its possible with other AC concentrated builds (many of which achieve conceal like a wilderbeast (bad phrasing but always wanted to use that)

Alternately you could just completely remove the dragon AC bonus because conceptually its the skin providing that benefit where a shadow dragon would have shadows as its skin and thats the conceal provider so sacrifice the ac bonus and get the conceal that reduces ac by 4? bringing it to 140 which star points out is possible already. albeit probably with BUR items not UR.

Though because of the high Dex i would think that most Shadow Disciples would sacrifice their dexterity by 10 points to boost con, charisma or such. though i could change the dragon abilities to provide +10 charisma +4 Con +4 Int +6 Dex. as opposed to the 10/6/6 i have now, not i also reduced the total ability benefit in half of the regular dragon disciple.

[FunkySwerve]

Jul 10, 2008 18:43:08 GMT @uncanny said:

Jul 10, 2008 17:57:58 GMT starlandra said:

would it matter then? we can already get 141+ easy enough which is higher then you ever need. a char with 161 would be the same roll (20) as a 141.

Oh dear... I feel a disturbance in the Force..

Lol, yes, dumb question of the week. If it didn't matter I wouldn't have posted it, now would I? Also inaccurate, since the high ab on the server is currently 125, and there are such things as ac penalties. Not to mention upcoming areas.

Funky

[starlandra]

dumb question of the week!!! did I win something!?! *yippie*