Spirit Warrior QuasiClass Idea

[DragonChyld]

OK, so the last one was a flop

Here is one I think is better that I put together. It involves Barbarian and Shadow Dancer which is a pretty uncommon combo I would think. I tried to make the abilities on Par with the other Quasiclasses but if it is too powerful feel free to make your suggestions or simply change it if you decide to use it Funky. I think this one is pretty kick ass.

Spirit Warrior Quasiclass
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Requirements: Must have 18 levels of Barbarian, and 10 levels of Shadow Dancer. This is higher than the other QuasiClasses however it is nessesary as the skills needed are Cross Class AND the Abilitys Make up for it IMO.

BackStory: Many tribes of all races roam the vast wilderness. Within a few of these tribes the warriors call strongly upon the spirits of their ancestors to help them in their battles. They call these Ancestors "Spirit Warriors". The Chieftains of the tribes have long been taught the traditions of communing with the shadow plane upon which their ancestors reside. It is though them that the Spirit Warriors respond. However all of this comes at a cost to the Chief. When his connection with the Shadow Realm is strong, and he is at the peak of his physical prowess he is required to take his own life so that he may become a Spirit Warrior himself and allow one of his ancestors to pass on to the next life. A PC who is a Spirit Warrior is still bound to this realm by his strong connection to the plane of shadows... He is Dead, however he will continue to learn and remember what he has learned in his past.

Benefits:
- On achieving Spirit Warrior Status (at level 28), the character as an Undead Creature is automatically given the 5 Self Concealment feats for free, and the following.
- Gains the Shadow Creature Appearance. (Looks cool and you still get weapons and Shield)
- Gains Immunity To Critical Hits
- Gains Immunity To Mind Affecting Spells

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Any Suggestions are welcome.

~ D.C.

[FunkySwerve]

dragonchyld said:

- On achieving Spirit Warrior Status (at level 28), the character as an Undead Creature is automatically given the 5 Self Concealment feats for free

ROFL
That is to say, that's just a TOUCH overpowered.
Funky

[DragonChyld]

Hmm I take it that means its a bit overpowered? I was comparing it tothe Bane Knight picking up all 3 Auto stills for free.. and also getting thier special premonition and trying to keep it on a comparable level. What would be a more reasonable choice?

Must have confused teh Shadow and the Invis stalker I thought Shadows had 50% Concelment.

~ DC

[DragonChyld]

So to edit this a bit, How about SCII

So 20% Concelment, Immunity to Crits and mind affecting.

Is that still over the top?

[FunkySwerve]

Yes. The comparison to BKs getting AS3 for free just doesn't follow. AS3 is almost completely useless on HG. The only reason its effective for BKs at all is that we altered the incentives for them - they can't realistically use EV at their casterlevel, and we specifically allow them to use a modified premonition in armor. The class simply isn't viable without armor, and the three AS feats were given as freebies because forcing the character to take them independantly was deemed to steep a class prerequisite.
Then there's SCV. It's pretty much the flagship of the dexer fleet, because it's undispellable 50% conceal. It's even more valuable in HG because you can only get 25% from improved invisibility items. It's requirements reflect its efficacy: 30 dex, 30 tumble, 30 hide, and IE. You level reqs only have them getting IE by normal means, and most likely the tumble, so you are effectively allowing a str barb a freebie on up to 22 dex and 30 hide (which is of extremely limited usefulness other than as a prereq - ie, a very nice freebie indeed). From a balance perspecitive, you are allowing a str-based armor-wearing build 50% concal, permanently, which is also unrealistic, given the increasing restances available to str builds.
Even without any SCV, the QC would be overpowered. The crit immune would pretty much destroy any possibility of PvP. There's a reason you only find it on a single item in the mod. And then there's the fact that neither class really sacrifices anything. SCII, or even III, would be a reasonable gain, IF there was some tradeoff, but there isn't.
Funky

[DragonChyld]

OK so here are some edits they are in red, hopefully this will balance this out a bit. Edits in Red


OK, so the last one was a flop

Here is one I think is better that I put together. It involves Barbarian, Shadow Dancer, and Cleric which is a pretty uncommon combo I would think. I tried to make the abilities on Par with the other Quasiclasses but if it is too powerful feel free to make your suggestions or simply change it if you decide to use it Funky. I think this one is pretty kick ass.

Spirit Warrior Quasiclass
======================
Requirements:
- Must have 18 levels of Barbarian, 10 levels of Shadow Dancer, and at least 1 level in Cleric. This is higher than the other QuasiClasses however it is nessesary as the skills needed are Cross Class AND the Abilitys Make up for it IMO.

- Must have taken Alertness and Iron Will to be able to see and be in the presence of his Ancestors.

BackStory: Many tribes of all races roam the vast wilderness. Within a few of these tribes the warriors call strongly upon the spirits of their ancestors to help them in their battles. They call these Ancestors "Spirit Warriors". The Chieftains of the tribes have long been taught the traditions of communing with the shadow plane upon which their ancestors reside. It is though them that the Spirit Warriors respond. However all of this comes at a cost to the Chief. When his connection with the Shadow Realm is strong, and he is at the peak of his physical prowess he is required to take his own life so that he may become a Spirit Warrior himself and allow one of his ancestors to pass on to the next life. A PC who is a Spirit Warrior is still bound to this realm by his strong connection to the plane of shadows... He is Dead, however he will continue to learn and remember what he has learned in his past.

Benefits:
- On achieving Spirit Warrior Status (at level 29), the character gains the ability ShadowBlend for a number of rounds equal to his CON modifier 3X a day, and the following.
- Gains the Shadow Creature Appearance. (Looks cool and you still get weapons and Shield)
- Gains Immunity To Critical Hits
- Gains Immunity To Mind Affecting Spells


Downsides:
- The Character will never have access to the Barbarian Shapestrong ability.
- All 3 classes are sacraficed to this Quasiclass with no cross class compliments.
- The Character must have several skill points in cross class skills (36)
- The Character must use 2 feats to access this Quasiclass


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Here is the script for the Shadowblend Ability. I am sure it can be edited for Balance Funky. hopefully this is a little more on target?.

#include "x2_inc_switches"
void main()
{
//Declare major variables
object oTarget = GetSpellTargetObject();
effect eVis = EffectVisualEffect(VFX_DUR_PROT_SHADOW_ARMOR);
effect eDur = EffectVisualEffect(VFX_DUR_CESSATE_POSITIVE);
effect eBlend = EffectConcealment(90);
effect eLink = EffectLinkEffects(eVis, eBlend);
eLink = EffectLinkEffects(eLink, eDur);
int nDuration = 10; // 10 rounds

//Fire cast spell at event for the specified target
SignalEvent(oTarget, EventSpellCastAt(OBJECT_SELF, GetSpellId(), FALSE));
//Apply the VFX impact and effects
if(!GetHasSpellEffect(GetSpellId(),OBJECT_SELF))
{
// if we are under effect of continual flame, this does not work
if(!GetHasSpellEffect(SPELL_CONTINUAL_FLAME,OBJECT_SELF))
{
ApplyEffectToObject(DURATION_TYPE_TEMPORARY, eLink, oTarget, RoundsToSeconds(nDuration));
}
}



}

~DC

[FunkySwerve]

Better, but still not there. Take a look at the cleric/sorc someone (lala I think) suggested in the drunken monk. I'd stick with something somewhat similar to the current quasiclasses, until you get the hang of it. Maybe a cleric/SD?Also, try to avoid inventing new abilities, in favor of modding current ones. The simpler the better.
Funky