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Post by strakej01 on Dec 3, 2009 22:40:28 GMT
Perhaps make some new Slag or Fugue proofing augs for weapons/items? These could be dropped in hells or the abyss
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Post by bobownsya on Dec 3, 2009 23:00:06 GMT
If the Fugue-proofing augs were to be added, they would have to be extremely rare. I can imagine it now, people with full sets of fugue-proof gear
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Post by simpetar on Dec 4, 2009 12:10:08 GMT
I can imagine it now, people with full sets of fugue-proof gear I cannot. 1. Most gear of my toons comes from set loot, whether hell, abo, ely or whatever worth wearing. These cannot be augmented. 2. If there is a piece of gear in my setup that can be augmented, I would definitely chose another aug but respawn/slag-proof. You can restore lost items for about 100 mil, rare and higher augments are much more valuable. If you are referring to the fact that you cannot restore limboed item on the same run... well... I consider quite irresponsible to make hard runs without backup gear. simpetar |
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Post by Werehound Silverfang on Dec 4, 2009 12:53:33 GMT
I consider quite irresponsible to make hard runs without backup gear. Not everybody has backup gear of every item they're wearing, but I can see your point. While I do not have the EXACT setup my hell-runner uses as backup, I have backup items of lesser power. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 13:49:50 GMT
The penalties for fugue are now very low.
Runs where people fugue more than once are rare. Sure they happen but they usually end badly.
Fugue proof gear would completely eliminate any feeling of risk from a run.
Imagine having no fear of ichors or ruin swarms?
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Post by simpetar on Dec 4, 2009 14:17:35 GMT
I have backup items of lesser power. So do I. It is nigh impossible nowadays to have exact copies of every piece of gear. Every time I run Nessus or similar run, my inventory overflows with contents from "UR" bankchests. Not to mention store bought sickles for threader, as ichors seem to like them  simpetar |
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Post by bort on Dec 4, 2009 14:21:10 GMT
The penalties for fugue are now very low. Runs where people fugue more than once are rare. Sure they happen but they usually end badly. Fugue proof gear would completely eliminate any feeling of risk from a run. Imagine having no fear of ichors or ruin swarms? The cost of limbo isn't gear, it's time spent away from party (parties become a lot more squishy without bard song and shunt in nessus, and a cleric being in limbo can be the difference between a close one that leads to success or a wipe). I wouldn't really want fugue immune gear. It's easy enough to get a set of slightly less uber back-up gear for those odd occasions when it happens. If people are fuguing that often there's something missing (party cohesion usually). |
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Post by Yojimbo on Dec 4, 2009 15:12:03 GMT
Slag proof I can see but fugue or limbo proofing I don't see. Slag is mid fight you don't want to watch your gear and sometimes you miss that it happened. Fugue or Limbo you are out of combat what ever is gone can be checked and replaced quickly easily and with little thought.
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Post by whatriot on Dec 4, 2009 16:19:47 GMT
Slag proof I can see but fugue or limbo proofing I don't see. Slag is mid fight you don't want to watch your gear and sometimes you miss that it happened. Fugue or Limbo you are out of combat what ever is gone can be checked and replaced quickly easily and with little thought. Actually slag proof is the one I don't see - it would be one step removed from immunity to dex kd or str kd. If you don't want to be exposed to slagging you either build for it or gear for it - that is one of the major challenges of the hells I thought? |
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Post by bort on Dec 4, 2009 17:23:32 GMT
Agreed. There's already a few slag proof shields in game for those wanting to avoid slagged shields, robes and light armor are unslaggable in hells as are nunchucks, bows and saps (probably a few others like crossbows too).
But if you really wanna hit 127 discipline on a build that goes armor and shield, it is doable if you build for it.
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Post by simpetar on Dec 4, 2009 18:58:31 GMT
But if you really wanna hit 127 discipline on a build that goes armor and shield, it is doable if you build for it. Not even with 127 discipline makes you immune to slagging, e.g. if you are dual kama robed monk (although I have not seen one for quite a long time, this is an example). The about only only choice is Bonding Resin from Hive. But again, I would still prefer the Resin to an aug. simpetar |
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Post by Yojimbo on Dec 4, 2009 19:50:15 GMT
I did forget about the resin and I would prefer items such as it to an aug. I am only saying in my opinion between the 2 slag is the only one I would consider. But if so I would lean toward UR or higher level class for it. That would make it very hard to obtain or impossible other than as a randomized pre applied augment.
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