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Titan
Apr 26, 2010 13:58:40 GMT
Post by MightyKhan on Apr 26, 2010 13:58:40 GMT
now I do not actually know if theres a suitable appearance (will check when i get the chance), but I decided to post anyway.
current large races: Troll Drider (Secret) Half-Ogre (Secret) Minotaur (Secret) Nobarian (UR) Stinger (UR) Treant (UR) Wemic (BUR) Juggernaut (BUR) Maelephant (BUR)
of these, only Maelephant, Treant and Nobarian have no charisma decrease. in other words: in order to get decent shield AC from divine shield, you need as many points in charisma as possible, without wracking your other stats (AB mainly), which is rather impossible with those races (demi stats help, of course, but that shouldnt be the deciding factor, imo).
The following would fill in this gap:
Titan (base race: any) FC: Paladin STR +4, CHA +6, Free feat: Cleave, Hide +5, Great Charisma I+II, Size increase: Large
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Titan
Apr 29, 2010 15:13:39 GMT
Post by magecat on Apr 29, 2010 15:13:39 GMT
Just curious, besides the obvious front load for Blackguard, is there a justification for Hide?
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Titan
Apr 29, 2010 16:00:10 GMT
Post by simpetar on Apr 29, 2010 16:00:10 GMT
now I do not actually know if theres a suitable appearance (will check when i get the chance), but I decided to post anyway. The old look of shapestrong barbs maybe? simpetar
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Titan
Apr 29, 2010 16:43:19 GMT
Post by kaezar on Apr 29, 2010 16:43:19 GMT
Uhm, being a bit of a devil's advocate, wouldn't that subby make Sorc/bg splashes too easy?
Other than that, it seems fine.
Take care Kaezar
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Titan
Apr 29, 2010 19:45:05 GMT
Post by simpetar on Apr 29, 2010 19:45:05 GMT
Uhm, being a bit of a devil's advocate, wouldn't that subby make Sorc/bg splashes too easy? Other than that, it seems fine. Take care Kaezar I do not think it would be "easy"; BG still needs 2 feats (power attack and cleave) which could be better spent elsewhere. You also get more benefit from 2 levels of pally (saves, fear immunity and disease immunity) than from 2 BG lvls (saves and potentially no XP penalty) - unless you are a notorious Ely / Rona runner. Also, currently there is only one BUR race that has +6 Cha, so there is no alternative if you want to make a high-end sorcerer. I hesitate to initiate a discussion if 2 Greater Stat feats are more or less useful than 3 metamagic feats, but another option is always nice. As for large stature, I find it more limiting to a caster than medium or small, because (apart from 1 less AC) you cannot hold fashion accessories - and there are no large caster items atm., but after all - why not? I like it simpetar
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Titan
Apr 29, 2010 19:52:49 GMT
Post by jonuhey on Apr 29, 2010 19:52:49 GMT
I do not think it would be "easy"; BG still needs 2 feats (power attack and cleave) which could be better spent elsewhere. You also get more benefit from 2 levels of pally (saves, fear immunity and disease immunity) than from 2 BG lvls (saves and potentially no XP penalty) - unless you are a notorious Ely / Rona runner. Actually the Titan idea has Cleave already (and hide +5) so you could splash BG without much trouble or extra feats. Also, prestige classes dont give xp penalty.Edit: NVM, english played a trick on me again
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Titan
Apr 29, 2010 20:11:26 GMT
Post by pete on Apr 29, 2010 20:11:26 GMT
I like it
would be nice to have a second +6 cha sub (as there are atleast 2 that give +6 to every other stat)
BG doesnt require power attack, just cleave (which would normally need powerattack) and thats listed as a free feat, so this could take BG as easy as pally. though on a caster sorc id still choose +1 sorc lvls at the cost of being good and on a tank id take pally to up a certain abyss boss spawn rate. also there are plenty of subs that have bonuses specifically to allow taking a particular prestige class early (e.g. salamander lore).
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Titan
Apr 29, 2010 20:47:14 GMT
Post by starlandra on Apr 29, 2010 20:47:14 GMT
i have always loved a titan idea being just (or half titan at least) as a large humanoid. Can you just do like the new mino mini bosses and just take a normal char (with gear showing) and make him/her large? (star's complete lack of knowledge regarding coding shines through again)
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Titan
Apr 30, 2010 9:57:49 GMT
Post by MightyKhan on Apr 30, 2010 9:57:49 GMT
theres actually 4 appearances called titan: i originally had an idea close to stars: instead of large size, just size increase but i think i prefer large only
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Titan
Apr 30, 2010 10:07:52 GMT
Post by bort on Apr 30, 2010 10:07:52 GMT
Large size can already be achieved without changing appearance (see barbarian shapestrong). So if you add a hack that changes the physical appearance to be larger too, you'd have your titan.
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Titan
Apr 30, 2010 10:24:17 GMT
Post by MightyKhan on Apr 30, 2010 10:24:17 GMT
one "problem" with barbarian shapestrong is that upon relog, your size is back to the base appearance's original size.
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Titan
Apr 30, 2010 11:54:27 GMT
Post by bort on Apr 30, 2010 11:54:27 GMT
So have it reapplied in the same way artifact immunities are... unless that's not possible for some reason?
...Could be irritating having your shield pop off when you relog I guess (or weapon if you're two-handing one)...
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Titan
Apr 30, 2010 15:11:36 GMT
Post by starlandra on Apr 30, 2010 15:11:36 GMT
still worth it
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Titan
Apr 30, 2010 15:59:05 GMT
Post by tomaan on Apr 30, 2010 15:59:05 GMT
So have it reapplied in the same way artifact immunities are... unless that's not possible for some reason? ...Could be irritating having your shield pop off when you relog I guess (or weapon if you're two-handing one)... I don't know if this was an exploit but.... Use shapestrong to equip a two handed weapon and shield. Log off. Log back on and you still get the shield AC as well as the 1.5x damage bonus. If you unequip either item, you have to use shapestrong again. T (hope it wasn't an exploit...cuz now the cat's out of the bag!)
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Titan
Apr 30, 2010 16:28:40 GMT
Post by MightyKhan on Apr 30, 2010 16:28:40 GMT
afaik, thats intended behavior
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