Post by tomaan on Dec 10, 2010 18:36:59 GMT
Posting this as a more traditional dual wielder build for DwDs (str tank only....others are uni tanks). He's only in his 50s atm, so I'm not sure if this should go into the general builds section.
At any rate, here he is:
Goal: damage soaking tank with decent damage output and not totally sucky saves.
Build Notes: This current version was reincarnated from a slightly different one. As such, I didn't put a lot of thought into feat order, just made sure I got them all in by lvl 40. You may want to adjust the order accordingly if you build from scratch.
I took SF: Listen at lvl 9 because of the horribly low Wisdom score. A good alternative would be Brutal Throw - which allows you to use STR mod for darts and throwing axes.
I took Epic Fort in LLs for some added save boosting., This is also an open/optional feat. Perhaps WF: dart/throwing axes if you took Brutal Throw.
Advantages: decent ab for a dual wielder (5 attacks @ 90+ w/haste); good damage soak; UMD for scrolls; crit immunity
Disadvantages: buff reliant; no conceal; no ranged attack; won't make higher Dex checks
Race: Dwarf
Subby: Howler (STR +6, CON +6, CHA -3, WIS -3, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Toughness, free feat: Exotic Weapon Proficiency)
Starting Stats[with subby] lvl 60+14:
STR: 14 [20] 62
DEX: 16 [16] 30
CON: 12 [20] 34
INT: 16 [16] 30
WIS: 8 [5] 19
CHA: 8 [3] 17
Level Progression: 1 Rogue, 8 Fighter, 10 DwD, 4 Fighter, 16 DwD, 1 Rogue; All Stat increases to STR
Feats: (Fxx: Fighter bonus feat[lvl]; Dxx: DwD bonus feat[lvl])
1 - Blooded
2 - Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe (F1)
3 - Iron Will; Power Attack (F2)
5 - Two Weapon Fighting (F4)
6 - Lightning Reflexes
7 - Greater Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe (F6)
9 - Skill Focus: Listen (open feat: your choice)
12 - Improved Critical: Dw War Axe
15 - Cleave
18 - Gr Cleave
19 - Ambidexterity (F8)
21 - Epic Will; Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (F10)
23 - Armor Skin (F12)
24 - Gr STR I
27 - Gr STR II; Overwhelming Crit: Dw War Axe (D14)
30 - Gr STR III
31 - Devastating Crit: Dw War Axe (D18)
33 - Gr STR IV
35 - Epic Weapon Focus (D22)
36 - Gr STR V
39 - Gr STR VI; Epic Prowess (D26)
42 - Legendary Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe
45 - Legendary Reflexes
48 - Legendary Will
51 - Legendary Skill Affinity: Tumble
54 - Epic Fortitude (open feat: your choice)
57 - Gr STR VII
60 - Gr STR VIII
Skills:
Concentration (20)
Craft Armor (leftover points....should be at least 40 w/buffs)
Craft Weapon (max)
Discipline (max)
Listen (max)
Tumble (60)
UMD (40)
AB:
BAB+EAB+LLAB+Feats+MOD+CW-Dual Wield+max AB bonus
19+10+15+8+26+2-4+20 = 96 (100 w/shield)
AC: (based on current gear)
base+dodge+defl+natural+feats+shield+dex+armor base+armor bonus+tumble+girding+Craft Armor=
10+20+17+20+2+12+3+8+18+12+2+1= 125 (132 w/shield)
Saves:
F: 65
R: 62
W: 64
This is still a work in progress, so it could change before the final iteration. Feedback is welcome as always.
Dual-wielding Weapon Master will follow in the WM forum.
T
At any rate, here he is:
Goal: damage soaking tank with decent damage output and not totally sucky saves.
Build Notes: This current version was reincarnated from a slightly different one. As such, I didn't put a lot of thought into feat order, just made sure I got them all in by lvl 40. You may want to adjust the order accordingly if you build from scratch.
I took SF: Listen at lvl 9 because of the horribly low Wisdom score. A good alternative would be Brutal Throw - which allows you to use STR mod for darts and throwing axes.
I took Epic Fort in LLs for some added save boosting., This is also an open/optional feat. Perhaps WF: dart/throwing axes if you took Brutal Throw.
Advantages: decent ab for a dual wielder (5 attacks @ 90+ w/haste); good damage soak; UMD for scrolls; crit immunity
Disadvantages: buff reliant; no conceal; no ranged attack; won't make higher Dex checks
Race: Dwarf
Subby: Howler (STR +6, CON +6, CHA -3, WIS -3, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Toughness, free feat: Exotic Weapon Proficiency)
Starting Stats[with subby] lvl 60+14:
STR: 14 [20] 62
DEX: 16 [16] 30
CON: 12 [20] 34
INT: 16 [16] 30
WIS: 8 [5] 19
CHA: 8 [3] 17
Level Progression: 1 Rogue, 8 Fighter, 10 DwD, 4 Fighter, 16 DwD, 1 Rogue; All Stat increases to STR
Feats: (Fxx: Fighter bonus feat[lvl]; Dxx: DwD bonus feat[lvl])
1 - Blooded
2 - Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe (F1)
3 - Iron Will; Power Attack (F2)
5 - Two Weapon Fighting (F4)
6 - Lightning Reflexes
7 - Greater Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe (F6)
9 - Skill Focus: Listen (open feat: your choice)
12 - Improved Critical: Dw War Axe
15 - Cleave
18 - Gr Cleave
19 - Ambidexterity (F8)
21 - Epic Will; Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (F10)
23 - Armor Skin (F12)
24 - Gr STR I
27 - Gr STR II; Overwhelming Crit: Dw War Axe (D14)
30 - Gr STR III
31 - Devastating Crit: Dw War Axe (D18)
33 - Gr STR IV
35 - Epic Weapon Focus (D22)
36 - Gr STR V
39 - Gr STR VI; Epic Prowess (D26)
42 - Legendary Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe
45 - Legendary Reflexes
48 - Legendary Will
51 - Legendary Skill Affinity: Tumble
54 - Epic Fortitude (open feat: your choice)
57 - Gr STR VII
60 - Gr STR VIII
Skills:
Concentration (20)
Craft Armor (leftover points....should be at least 40 w/buffs)
Craft Weapon (max)
Discipline (max)
Listen (max)
Tumble (60)
UMD (40)
AB:
BAB+EAB+LLAB+Feats+MOD+CW-Dual Wield+max AB bonus
19+10+15+8+26+2-4+20 = 96 (100 w/shield)
AC: (based on current gear)
base+dodge+defl+natural+feats+shield+dex+armor base+armor bonus+tumble+girding+Craft Armor=
10+20+17+20+2+12+3+8+18+12+2+1= 125 (132 w/shield)
Saves:
F: 65
R: 62
W: 64
This is still a work in progress, so it could change before the final iteration. Feedback is welcome as always.
Dual-wielding Weapon Master will follow in the WM forum.
T