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Post by pharohosiris on Feb 3, 2011 1:09:48 GMT
Read the MIN Pandect for stunning fist for my monk. It says to use virture to select which option u want, due to there are 2 options for this particular pandect. #1-spell resistance and #2-stunning fist. First came up spell resistance, which i did not want. Used virture again, and it stated the stunning fist option. So I then proceded to use the pandect, and it gave me the spell resistance. It has happened the same way to at least one other person i know of. I have taken a screenie to look at.
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Post by nahorl on Feb 3, 2011 23:57:27 GMT
Thats what happened when i used it it seems to be the wrong way round to me. I still have 60 days left till i can reinc i used mine when i had just reinc my toon .
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Post by pharohosiris on Feb 8, 2011 18:23:15 GMT
Been almost a week, and no replies. I would like the same MIN pandect back and try it again, doing just the opposite as posted on the screenie. It is VERY misleading, and peeps shouldnt have to re-inc thier toon to fix it IMO.
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Post by Werehound Silverfang on Feb 9, 2011 0:14:03 GMT
Mmm... It says you lost the Spell Resistance Pandect. Are you POSITIVE you used the right one?
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Post by pharohosiris on Feb 9, 2011 16:57:32 GMT
That is what the Pandect is called(Spell resistance). However it has 2 functions, u can set it to spell resistance OR stunning fist. And the logs clearly show I had it set to stunning fist, and then used the pandect which in turn gave me spell resistance. Am curious if it is set to spell resistance.....would it give u stunning fist feats? Or is it bugged all together, not sure. Thx for looking into Were, I appreciate it. Any other questions I can help u with to resolve this, plz ask. Thx again
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Post by BigStick on Feb 9, 2011 22:03:28 GMT
Let me preface this by saying that I've never had possesion of a Pandect of any sort, so could be way off-base here.
From the screenshot and your post, it looks like using the Virtue power on the item actually changes the type and name of the item from SR (Spell Resistance) to SF (Stunning Fist). The first time it's used, it's the SR version, then the next line down says that it was the SF version that was used. The name was actually changed. Further down, there's a line that says you "used the item's special power" followed by the statement the you lost the SR version. If using Virtue on the SR changes it to SF, I'd guess that using the Virtue power on the SF version would change it back to SR. Using it at that point would provide the SR benefits.
That's how I read the messages in the screenshot.
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Post by gandoron on Feb 9, 2011 22:53:53 GMT
Well I just ended up using an SR pandect on my bard testing this. You originally take the pandect out of the chest as the SR pandect. You then use the virtue option and the log reads "uses SR pandect". It is now a Stunning Fist pandect...if you hover over it, it will say that. It is showing you the object that you used, not the current object name. You then use it again and the log reads "uses SF pandect". It is now an SR pandect...if you hover over it, it will say that.
You seem to use the special power twice, but if you use the special power, it will bind the SR pandect.
You made a mistake, you should have only used the virtue once. If you hovered over it before you used it, you would see that it was the SR pandect.
Anyone want to reimburse my pandect now?
-G
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Post by pharohosiris on Feb 9, 2011 23:51:57 GMT
How is one supposed to know to hover over the pandect. Where does it say that in the description? And as I stated b-4 it is VERY misleading after using the virture, and it states SR feat the first time, then use virture again and it states Stunning fist. At that point it should be set to Stunning fist. I have talked with numerous DM's and players, and they all agree that it isnt very clear at all. DM's including-Golly, Murph, Blass. Thank you Gand for testing that out, but you just retold what I did(aside from the hover, lol). I guess I'll just reinc and do it ASS backwords to make it work. But seriously someone needs to do some rewording on that thing, to make it clear. Or at least say to "Hover over pandect and it will tell u what it is set to. Thx for the responses. And Gand, if I get another Hover craft.....I mean SR pandect, it's yours m8
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Post by nahorl on Feb 10, 2011 9:26:26 GMT
If i had been testing because of a problem i might have hovered over it to see but i didn't because when i was doing mine it was the first time i had ever used a pandect and the description is what i went by which is very misleading. And after waiting 45 days already and another 20 to go, and having asked a DM while i was doing mine if it was right, its nice to get such helpful comments Gand.
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Post by pharohosiris on Feb 21, 2011 15:26:14 GMT
Oh BTW, thx for the OVERWHELMING response and help in solving this matter. Is no wonder why we lose peeps evryday on this server.
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Post by jonuhey on Feb 21, 2011 15:46:17 GMT
I know you are unhappy for what happened to you, but you cant blame anything on this thread, you had even one person that tested a pandect that he DIDNT needed, just to test it, Im not a DM or anything, but for me its clear for the logs you used the Spell resistance one by using the virtue twice instead of just one time.
DMs cant help everytime if the issue was a player error... or else I would be asking them for a long time to return me my planewalker ring that I unequipped directly to a full bag. And while you'll have the chance to use your pandect during a reinc, as you get it back, I probably wont get another ring of that EVER.
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Post by kralex on Feb 21, 2011 16:44:34 GMT
Looks like the relevant lines are:
Acquired Item: Pandect of Darkest Secrets - Spell Resistance Mr Fister uses Pandect of Darkest Secrets - Spell Resistance Mr Fister uses Pandect of Darkest Secrets - Stunning Fist Mr Fister uses item's special power Mr Fister uses item's special power Lost Item: Pandect of Darkest Secrets - Spell Resistance
From these, it seems like everything worked as it should. You switched from SR to SF, then switched back from SF to SR again, then used the pandect. I don't know what the first "Mr Fister uses item's special power" did; maybe you meant to switch it to SF again but used a different option on the pandect or a different item altogether.
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Post by gandoron on Feb 21, 2011 21:14:28 GMT
I blew up my first two asmo artifacts (2.5 years ago). That was very painful. This is frustrating yes, but in the grand scheme of things it's not so bad. this pandect is relatively easy to get anyways, it's not like you lost a shield prof pandect. There is going to be a lot of small annoyances with loot, game play, etc. At the end of the day it's the most enjoyable long term mmorpg D&D'ish experience that I can find.
-G
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Post by pharohosiris on Feb 21, 2011 21:22:28 GMT
Clearly states, spell resistance first then stunning fist second. Also A DM was on and told me it was right the way I did it b-4 I committed. Anyways, is funny that no DM's or anyone higher up has responed to comment (other then Were, which didnt offer much insight. But at least he responded.) Once again.......used virtue to set , first to come up was SR, used again and Stunning fist was in log. At that point (DM agreed) was ready to set as Stunning fist........It epic failed. Very confusing is all I am saying.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 22, 2011 0:36:19 GMT
Why is it 'funny' that one one besides Were has responded? This looks like a simple user error to me. When you use virtue, the item is swapped to a new one, as is clear if you look at it. I can't imagine any way to make it clearer than it already is - alternatives would just confuse more people.
Funky
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