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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 3:00:19 GMT
How is Gand's (gandoronelay4), "to reign in hell" not being bid on. +16 to all stats for lvl 66 and up. That is the equivalent to having every single stat arty combined into a single aug on a really nice helm. Minus the abilities that come along with the stat artys, but with the addition of a level 60 UEF.
People bid billions for stat artys yet this item has not reached even one billion.
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Post by tyranlthixis on Mar 7, 2012 3:14:40 GMT
To be fair here. The artifacts have been around for a very long time and many vet players have many helmets already. The uber skill dumps now found on the helmet were not there originally (especially listen). The item has come a long way from humble beginnings but that also means that helmets were being taken during the 2nd and 3rd round of Nessus splits. It is a supply and demand problem. What has exacerbated was the long period of time where the helmet was very much underpowered. The helm has been overpowered for all of 2-3 weeks now, so the demand isn't going to correct itself in that amount of time.
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Post by Yojimbo on Mar 7, 2012 3:37:40 GMT
You really only need 1 Asmo helm to pass amongs your Demi toons but you need a consumable Arti for each toon.
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Post by gandoron on Mar 7, 2012 4:22:25 GMT
that's what I thought, even lowered the rsv from 1.2 to 800k
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 7:13:25 GMT
To be fair here. The artifacts have been around for a very long time and many vet players have many helmets already. The uber skill dumps now found on the helmet were not there originally (especially listen). The item has come a long way from humble beginnings but that also means that helmets were being taken during the 2nd and 3rd round of Nessus splits. It is a supply and demand problem. What has exacerbated was the long period of time where the helmet was very much underpowered. The helm has been overpowered for all of 2-3 weeks now, so the demand isn't going to correct itself in that amount of time. I can see what your saying- I traded an asmo cloak for 1 because the owner had like three and was happy to do me a solid. Still....seems worth at least a billion. The item is overpowered and here is a suggested solution: make it something like a gestalt item, binding to the toon that uses it. Yes, the same character would be able to use another asmo item simultaneously with the crown, but in order to use a crown on another character, the player would have to actually get another crown. Moliated Boots of the Wanderer, for example, are bound to a toon meaning you have to get a whole new crucible to get new moliated boots and honestly those boots are not even close in power to that of the crown imo. |
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 7, 2012 9:20:22 GMT
Moliated Boots of the Wanderer, for example, are bound to a toon meaning you have to get a whole new crucible to get new moliated boots and honestly those boots are not even close in power to that of the crown imo. These are also stupidly easy to obtain in comparrison to an Asmo Helm, for example you don't have to traipse 9 levels of Hell Cata |
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Post by desocupado on Mar 7, 2012 10:20:21 GMT
Moliated Boots of the Wanderer, for example, are bound to a toon meaning you have to get a whole new crucible to get new moliated boots and honestly those boots are not even close in power to that of the crown imo. These are also stupidly easy to obtain in comparrison to an Asmo Helm, for example you don't have to traipse 9 levels of Hell Cata Well to do a nesus run you don't need to get the tag at the end. But a crucible is way easier to get than a helm. |
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 7, 2012 10:43:18 GMT
These are also stupidly easy to obtain in comparrison to an Asmo Helm, for example you don't have to traipse 9 levels of Hell Cata Well to do a nesus run you don't need to get the tag at the end. But a crucible is way easier to get than a helm. True, but you do need to get the tag to actually wear the Helm. Boots need no tag, only certain levels, the crucible is a semi random loot drop in an LL run that with the right toon can be solo'd. I'd like to see a player solo Tia to Nessus just to get an Asmo Helm  Cata |
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Post by Raj on Mar 7, 2012 11:42:22 GMT
Then we have Cata trying to auction asmo arties for 1-4 billions base price when the only ones with enough money to buy them and multiple demi toons to appreciate the offer, are the same ones with 3-10 spares of every arti in bank  Geez Cata, those prices were almost right 3-4 years ago Barely. Btw Over, your solution to a item that you consider overpowered* is to let people use that, and another asmo arti at the same time?  *wrongly imo, but it's a cheap source of +16s for people who never put foot in the abyss so it finally has a niche, and boots seem way more broken atm |
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Mar 7, 2012 11:57:49 GMT
Then we have Cata trying to auction asmo arties for 1-4 billions base price when the only ones with enough money to buy them and multiple demi toons to appreciate the offer, are the same ones with 3-10 spares of every arti in bank Geez Cata, those prices were almost right 3-4 years ago Barely. No one said you had to place a bid on them  Cata |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 18:34:42 GMT
Btw Over, your solution to a item that you consider overpowered* is to let people use that, and another asmo arti at the same time? *wrongly imo, but it's a cheap source of +16s for people who never put foot in the abyss so it finally has a niche, and boots seem way more broken atm Meh, it was just a suggestion, not a statement of fact or some well crafted piece of meme engineering. The point is just that for something that is relatively incredibly powerful, the going price is extremely cheap. Its rarity seems out of proportion to its power. |
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Post by shardelay on Mar 7, 2012 19:31:35 GMT
I'll trade you an asmo helm for a crucible.
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Post by Yojimbo on Mar 7, 2012 20:13:52 GMT
Speaking of Crucible I am curious how the newest changes and XR gear will impact the value of a Crucible and moliated gear which many of the piece people currently seek to use a crucible on end up on par with unrandomized BUR or some of the more coveted Hell Set loot prior to the changes which buff stats. Will we see a means to further these items or will they become obsolete for many L80 vets? I know its more a separate topic just curious on peoples thoughts.
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