Shreds of Life (Clr 20/WM 20)

[Yojimbo]

Base Race: Human
Sub-race: Half-Kyton
DEX: +4
CON: +4
WIS: +4
Free Feats: Dodge, Mobility, Improved Spell Resistance 1 & 2
Free Skills: +8 Hide & Move Silenty, +10 Tumble

Starting Stats

Level 1

Cleric (1)

STR: 8 DEX: 16 (20) CON: 12 (14) WIS: 16 (20) INT: 14 CHA: 8

Bullheaded Blooded Domain: Death Domain: Healing

Pre-Epic:

Level 2	Cleric (2)
Level 3	Cleric (3)		Expertise
Level 4	Cleric (4)	WIS +1 (21)
Level 5	Cleric (5)
Level 6	Cleric (6)		Spring Attack
Level 7	Cleric (7)
Level 8	Cleric (8)	WIS +1 (22)
Level 9	Cleric (9)		Whirlwind Attack
Level 10	Cleric (10)
Level 11	Cleric (11)
Level 12	Cleric (12)	WIS +1 (23)	WF: Sickle
Level 13	Cleric (13)
Level 14	Cleric (14)
Level 15	Cleric (15)		Intuitive Attack
Level 16	Cleric (16)	WIS +1 (24)
Level 17	Weapon Master (1)		Weapon of Choice: Sickle
Level 18	Weapon Master (2)		Blind Fight
Level 19	Weapon Master (3)
Level 20	Weapon Master (4)	WIS +1 (25)

Epic:

Level 21	Cleric (17)		ESF: Discipline
Level 22	Cleric (18)
Level 23	Cleric (19)
Level 24	Cleric (20)	WIS +1 (26)	Great Dexterity I (21)
Level 25	Weapon Master (7)
Level 26	Weapon Master (8)
Level 27	Weapon Master (9)		Great Dexterity II (22)
Level 28	Weapon Master (10)	WIS +1 (27)
Level 29	Weapon Master (11)
Level 30	Weapon Master (12)		Great Dexterity III (23)
Level 31	Weapon Master (13)
Level 32	Weapon Master (14)	WIS +1 (28)
Level 33	Weapon Master (15)		Great Dexterity IV (24) Armor Skin
Level 34	Weapon Master (16)
Level 35	Weapon Master (17)
Level 36	Weapon Master (18)	WIS +1 (29)	Great Wisdom I (30) Epic Prowess
Level 37	Weapon Master (19)
Level 38	Weapon Master (20)
Level 39	Weapon Master (19)		Great Wisdom II (31) EWF: Sickle
Level 40	Weapon Master (20)	WIS +1 (32)

Legendary:

Level 41	Cleric (21)
Level 42	Cleric (22)	WIS +1 (33)	LSA: Tumble
Level 43	Cleric (23)
Level 44	Cleric (24)	WIS +1 (34)
Level 45	Cleric (25)		LWF: Sickle
Level 46	Cleric (26)	WIS +1 (35)
Level 47	Cleric (27)
Level 48	Cleric (28)	WIS +1 (36)	LSA: Discipline
Level 49	Cleric (29)
Level 50	Cleric (30)	WIS +1 (37)
Level 51	Cleric (31)		Great Wisdom III (38)
Level 52	Cleric (32)	WIS +1 (39)
Level 53	Cleric (33)
Level 54	Cleric (34)	WIS +1 (40)	Great Wisdom IV ( 41)
Level 55	Cleric (35)
Level 56	Cleric (36)	WIS +1 (42)
Level 57	Cleric (37)		Great Wisdom V (43)
Level 58	Cleric (38)	WIS +1 (44)
Level 59	Cleric (39)
Level 60	Cleric (40)	WIS +1 (45)	Great Wisdom VI (46)

Final Stats:

STR: 8 DEX: 24 CON: 16 WIS: 46 INT: 14 CHA: 8

Concentration: 31 Craft Armor: 6 Craft Weapon: 6 Discipline: 63 Heal: 63 Listen: 43 Parry: 43 Tumble: 60

AB: 95

AC: 128

Fortitude: 55 Reflex: 57 Will: 70

AB Assumes: +12 Items, +20 AB, & +1 CW
AC Assumes: +12 Items, BUR Gear, & +1 CA
Saves Assume: +12 Items & +20 Universal Saves

[Yojimbo]

I still need to calculate a few things but the basics are here and posted up for commenting will try and get the remaining final numbers later.

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Some comments:

I would go Zenythri instead of HK. It costs you 1 extra pre-epic feat (for WM), but switches +4 con to +4 str, far more useful for a tank making a lot of stat checks.

Str 8: I think this will be a KD nightmare, remember that to be effective you need to be right in the middle of the action and you will be attacking all mobs near you - you will get plenty of love!

Wis 46 (58): Gives you a DC 54 thread, -2/-3 for mid-hells pens. I just checked my logs from min last night and saw typical save bonuses of 47-49 after a warchanter curse. So, many mobs will need only roll a 3 to take half damage and the rest will need a 5. Of course this will improve with demi/arti/paragon levels, but it will make for a harsh start. You have to question whether that justifies so much effort to get the wisdom. I guess what I am saying is that if you want to have wis damage you need to really cram the wisdom in. You are effectively a wisdom based caster.

Blind Fight: I would take Improved Expertise instead, it is an extremely powerful feat for a threader, your ac is going to hurt a lot without it (I will be surprised if you can get over 130 pre-demi). Surely you can squeeze in 60 listen with skill + gear?

You have a minor typo which lists your last LL feat as dex instead of wis.

You don't talk about gear, but you will find that it is very tough to manage, you are effectively trying to gear a front line tank, with 3 primary stats (str/dex/wis) and you will be trying to add slot gear. This is not a criticism of your build, it is the nature of wis threaders :-) I just thought I would mention it.

Don't take this as too critical, I think a wis threader is extremely difficult to make pre-demi.

[Yojimbo]

Thanks for pointing out the type and as for the STR I really won't be able to get enough to make it worthwhile it will rely on UUU or similar effects to hope to not get KDed vs STR checks but the DEX is enough pre-demi to reliably pass non-paragon DEX checks the way I see it if I planned to pass STR checks I would have done a Uni or just a STR. I planned this to be as close to a DEX non Uni as possible with high WIS for high Threading damage output. I wanted to run it thoguht from start to finish to see the viability of the build I know that the improvements of Demi iterations, arti, and PLs will grant. I have to check where and what all my skill points go into as you can see I clearly did not put them all down so I will have to get back to you on if I can pick up Listen if so it is worth considering Improved Expertise and for the AC I am fairly certain it tops out pre-demi right around 130 but need to do the math agian to be sure. I am still playing and gear this guy but ideally it will wear Ely LT Light Armor, Tia Cloak Belt & Ammy, Styxwalkers though I might swap some of the Tia pieces out from that setup but I would say it will be geared very similar to a normal DEX LT.

On a related note/thought is there an LT Ego and if so what does it do?

[Deleted]

There is no LT ego

[tagnusd]

Thoughts and ideas for a LT ego were thrown around. Using CL cleric ego would increase caster level to 41 which might increase the usefulness of some spells, although i can't quite think of which ones atm would be useful at 41.

[Yojimbo]

Heal to stop "bleeding"

[Yojimbo]

Updated AB, AC, & Saves