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Post by Chaotic Theory on Feb 25, 2013 17:21:02 GMT
This IS NOT my build, just changed Sabregirl's build up to suite my need for a little more damage  I need a little input on the build itself, is currently level 26 just got chanter status. I would like input to improve the current build, as well as, a good UR race adaption and BUR race adaption. Thank you in advance! Dwarf: Derro Strength: 14 Dexterity: 14 Constitution: 14 Intelligence: 14 Wisdom: 8 Charisma: 13 10 Bard 16 Dwarven Defender 14 Bard Max Discipline Max Listen Max Perform Max Tumble Max Craft Armor 30 Concentration 45 Use Magic Device 3 leftover for Craft Weapon Pre-Epic Feats:01: Strong Soul 03: Curse Song 06: Toughness 09: Dodge 12: Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace 15: Metamagic: Still Spell 18: Improved Critical: Heavy Mace Epic Feats:21: Epic Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace 24: Armor Skin, Epic Prowess 27: Metamagic: Extend Spell 30: Great Strength I 33: Great Strength II 36: Great Strength III 39: Great Strength IV, Lasting Inspiration Legendary Feats:41: Read the Illusion Tome! 42: Legendary Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace 45: Legendary Hardened Soul 48: Legendary Spell Focus: Illusion 51: Greater Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace 54: Epic Reflexes 57: Great Strength V 60: Great Strength VI Armor Class at 4010 (base) + 17 (armor + base) + 16 (natural) + 20 (dodge) + 3 (armor skin + CA) + 16 (deflection) + 8 (tumble) + 15 (shield) + 8 (dex) = 113 Final + 4 (FROM GIRD) Armor Class at 60
10 (base) + 20 (armor + base) + 20 (natural) + 20 (dodge) + 4 (armor skin + CA) + 17 (deflection) + 12 (tumble) + 16 (shield) + 9 (dex) = 128 Final + 4 (FROM GIRD) Armor Class at 60 + Double Demi
10 (base) + 20 (armor + base) + 20 (natural) + 20 (dodge) + 4 (armor skin + CA) + 20 (deflection) + 12 (tumble) + 16 (shield) + 11 (dex) = 133 Final + 4 (FROM GIRD) Not sure on attack bonus, spent all my time calculation armor class lol.... What do you think? |
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Post by Yojimbo on Feb 25, 2013 19:55:16 GMT
If those AC numbers are right you should be good defensively speaking. I am not sure on AB easiest would be compare your primary combat stat to Sabre's and add or subtract for the difference. You should also figure the saves on it those are also very important to the build. I don't know what armor you plan to use but I would aim to be in Robes or Bard Armors so you can cast with out any penalties or at least additional penalties.
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Post by Chaotic Theory on Feb 25, 2013 20:08:54 GMT
I am going to try for bard light armors or regular light armors. Whats a good UR race for this and whats the best BUR race (will go universal once I got UR and BUR)
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Post by Yojimbo on Feb 26, 2013 13:34:25 GMT
Not sure as far as stats for but Alethian(sp?) is good UR race for chanters as for BUR I think Stoneguard(or some name like that) is designed for Chanters and then Shard is always popular.
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Post by The_Brute on Mar 5, 2013 23:12:55 GMT
Hey all,
I'm building this to the dot and having fun doing so. I am interested in his comment about universal ultra-rare so I have been trying to find two aleithian dwarf books and try to get there but am not a real great builder. What can I do to get universal with the ultra-rare dwarf race?
The Brute
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Post by The_Brute on Mar 6, 2013 12:11:26 GMT
No one?
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Post by Werehound Silverfang on Mar 6, 2013 13:38:07 GMT
Not sure what you mean about "Universal ultra-rare." To get an Ultra-rare Ultra-rare subraces are granted as ultra-rare loot. You need to kill things in legendary areas. |
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Post by Fade on Mar 6, 2013 14:23:32 GMT
I'm assuming by 'universal' you mean enough strength and dexterity to make checks in certain areas of the mod. Well, I'm by far no expert...but I don't think that would be possible with Aleithian Dwarf
"Aleithian Dwarf" (secret UltraRare)
- FC: Bard / BC: Dwarven Defender
- CON -2, INT +2, CHA +7, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Spell Focus Transmutation
With no bonuses to str OR dex becoming universal would cost something vital. I'm just saying that the build would have to make a choice some 'tanky' toons have to make. One or the other without totally tanking the opposing stat.
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Post by desocupado on Mar 6, 2013 15:04:59 GMT
As a general recommendation Bard-CC WC should focus Dex and perhaps just a bit of Str for checks.
Even tough your AC seems nice, you have no innate critical immunity and very low damage immunity bonuses unlike most STR tanks with similar AC.
If you had DD as control class you'd get Natural AC = Str mod and Damage immunity = Str (on top of much more health per level)
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Another thing, you are assuming a Strongheart (Natural AC 20) - this item is really hard to come by (The best way for an open subrace to get Natural ac, in your case, would be having DD control class or to choose a class with Tenser's Transformation)
Seems you are wearing light armor (3+16 or 3+17) given your high dex bonus to AC.
This means your damage immunity (Physical) is pretty low (Around 30-40% less than a Dwarf Defender in heavier armor). On the bright side you have 80% concealment.
If you swapped Str and Dex you'd have +5/+7 Total Armor Class for 13 less physical damage. (assuming you already have a Strongheart for the Str version, otherwise add +3 AC for the dexter build)
Str and AB
You Str seems to end up in 40 - 54 with +14 gear
This means 42 AB (improved heroism) +22 (Str mod) +7 (feats) +20 (magic bonus) = 91 // Can be enhanced by True strike (+4) for some rounds for a total of 95
Edit:
Seems you are missing at least Charisma +3 (Drop Great Str IV-VI for GWF and to offset points spent in Charisma)
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Post by buddhamind on Mar 6, 2013 17:11:01 GMT
I'm assuming by 'universal' you mean enough strength and dexterity to make checks in certain areas of the mod. Well, I'm by far no expert...but I don't think that would be possible with Aleithian Dwarf "Aleithian Dwarf" (secret UltraRare) - FC: Bard / BC: Dwarven Defender - CON -2, INT +2, CHA +7, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Spell Focus Transmutation With no bonuses to str OR dex becoming universal would cost something vital. I'm just saying that the build would have to make a choice some 'tanky' toons have to make. One or the other without totally tanking the opposing stat. I don't know about warchanter but my bard is Aleithian and is uni. Build is posted somewhere. 42 str and dex at the moment. |
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Post by The_Brute on Mar 6, 2013 20:40:21 GMT
Do you know what the builds called
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Post by Fade on Mar 6, 2013 23:38:16 GMT
I'm assuming by 'universal' you mean enough strength and dexterity to make checks in certain areas of the mod. Well, I'm by far no expert...but I don't think that would be possible with Aleithian Dwarf "Aleithian Dwarf" (secret UltraRare) - FC: Bard / BC: Dwarven Defender - CON -2, INT +2, CHA +7, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Spell Focus Transmutation With no bonuses to str OR dex becoming universal would cost something vital. I'm just saying that the build would have to make a choice some 'tanky' toons have to make. One or the other without totally tanking the opposing stat. I don't know about warchanter but my bard is Aleithian and is uni. Build is posted somewhere. 42 str and dex at the moment. Thanks for chiming in Buddhamind. I stand corrected. I knew you had a build with Aleithian, but it slipped my mind and didn't know it was uni. I did a search and found it since you were wondering Brute. Although it's a pure Caster Bard not a WC. Aleithian Muse. highergroundpoa.proboards.com/thread/15773/aleithian-muse-dwarf-40-bard |
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Post by The_Brute on Mar 7, 2013 1:04:58 GMT
Posted a semi-universal WC, not great but works for a UR build.
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