Post by kaezar on Mar 30, 2013 22:50:03 GMT
Well, here I am again disturbing the peace. Last time I swear. Even because I can't stand it anymore
I scoured some more ad&d sourcebooks and came up with some more names, which I incorporated on the table I published before. I also corrected some mistakes - namely, Lythary and Undonnir were already taken, so I took them off.
* Funky, I was going to let it alone since you said it wouldn't be changed, but I really feel I can't. If you let the theurge subrace as is, it will be better for a player to use either the wizard subrace or the caster cleric subrace as base to build a theurge.
Reasons are, as is, this subby gives two useful epic feats, and two almost useless. The only use for the 2 great feats for the non-cc is to lower the starting ability for the non-cc from 14 to 12. Which is 2 generation points. Add to that that the subby loses 1 additional feat as an elf and the subby is griviously underpowered.
** Change this base race for human. Nothing against gnomes, specially as the appearance will change, but making a strength character based on gnome is ludicrous.
Take care
kaezar
I scoured some more ad&d sourcebooks and came up with some more names, which I incorporated on the table I published before. I also corrected some mistakes - namely, Lythary and Undonnir were already taken, so I took them off.
Class | Race | Subrace Name | New Suggested Name | Source Material | Comments |
Bard | Gnome | Favored of BRD | Jaebrin | AD&D3E MM5 | Small impish humanoid with great powers of enchantment and immunte to the same |
Bard | Human | Favored of BRD2 | Maridkin | ||
Druid | Half-Elf | Favored of Silvanus | Aurumaach Rilmani | AD&D3E Planescape monstruous Compendium appendix 2 | Highest caste of the Rilmani |
Ploder | Human | Favored of Ploder | Earthbound Celestial | ||
Theurge | Elf | Favored of Llolth Female | Favored of Isis | check below after the * | |
Theurge | Elf | Favored of Llolth Male | Favored of Thoth | check below after the * | |
Turner | Human | Favored of Ao | Nmbus | AD&D3E Planescape | celestial champioms |
Herald | Human | Favored of Herald - Female | Vaati | ad&d4e | CC Sorcerer |
Herald | Human | Favored of Herald - Male | Ruvkova | AD&D3E Planescape | CC Druid |
Str BFM/DSM | Gnome | Favored of Tiamat | Phoelarch | ad&d4e | Check after ** below |
SL | Elf | Favored of StormLord | Storm Archon | ad&d4e | |
BClr | Half-Elf | Favored of Helm | Freeranging Per | A Per who was freed from bonding to a portal | |
BK | Half-Elf | Favored of BK | Fallen Archon | AD&D3E Planescape | An sinning archon who is unrepentant may become that |
Lash | Half-Elf | Favored of Loviatar-Male | Lunar Ravager | ||
Lash | Half-Elf | Favored of Loviatar-Female | Arthurea | AD&D3E Planescape Net monstruous Compendium | Succubus and Aasimar Offspring |
Str/Div | Half-Elf | Solarborn - Male | Justice Archon | AD&D3E MM4 | |
Dex/Div | Half-Elf | Solarborn - Female | Trumpet Archon | AD&D3E Planescape | Tall, radiant winged elf |
CS RNG Str | Human | Favored of Mielikki | Faashta | AD&D3E Planescape – Celestials | celestial bounty hunters |
Dex Asn | Halfling | Favored of Cyric | Shadar-kai | ad&d4e | |
DD | Dwarf | Favored of DD | Durzagon | AD&D3E MM2 | Half-Fiend/Half-Duergar |
ZEN | Human | Favored of Lathlander | Master of the Hunt | AD&D3E MM5 | Eladrin rulers on the Outer Planes who get bored and start hunting creatures. |
AA | Elf | Favored of AA | Verdant Prince | AD&D3E MM4 | Eladrin leaders/kings on the outer planes |
Dex1 | Elf | Favored of Dex1 | Tulani Eladrin | AD&D3E Planescape | Highest caste of Eladrin - resembles a tall elf |
Dex2 | Half-Elf | Favored of Dex2 | Hamadryad | AD&D3E FR Monstruous Compendium | |
Str1 | Half-Orc | Favored of str1 | Half-Goliath | ||
Str2 | Human | Favored of str2 | Reborn Einheriar | ||
WM | Human | Favored of Tempus | Justicator | AD&D3E MM3 | Human, adds wings. Also shoundn't this be 2 subbys for dex and str wm? |
* Funky, I was going to let it alone since you said it wouldn't be changed, but I really feel I can't. If you let the theurge subrace as is, it will be better for a player to use either the wizard subrace or the caster cleric subrace as base to build a theurge.
Reasons are, as is, this subby gives two useful epic feats, and two almost useless. The only use for the 2 great feats for the non-cc is to lower the starting ability for the non-cc from 14 to 12. Which is 2 generation points. Add to that that the subby loses 1 additional feat as an elf and the subby is griviously underpowered.
** Change this base race for human. Nothing against gnomes, specially as the appearance will change, but making a strength character based on gnome is ludicrous.
Take care
kaezar