Paragon Feats for Necro Silk Cleric

[AW O'Reilly]

Here is my Build: (I would type it all in, but I think the sheet is more thorough.)
Evil Necro Silk Cleric

In the upper right corner I added a list of Paragon feats, BLUF, I want to drop Trans foci(IOF) in favor of Ench foci with a goal of casting +15 GMW. I would like to have PSK Necro (Eradicate) and PSK Div (Serendipitous Forethought), but I only have 6 Paragon feats to work with:

1. P Spell Pen
2. P Spell Focus Necro
3. PSK Necro
4. PSF Div
5. PSF Ench -or- PSK Div
6. PSF Evo

#5 is my quandary. Do I tell the tanks to "suck it up - +13 is plenty!" (which I know to be a lie!) so that I can cast Serendipitous Forethought... -or- should I say the heck with PSK Div and pack +15 GMW-a-plenty?

BTW, If you are a tanker, I appreciate your attention to my query, but your feedback isn't required, hehe, I already know what you are going to say.

I have always been of the opinion that weapon buffs are the most powerful spells in the game, so I am leaning toward PSF Ench - though another caster (pariah, WC, etc...) might provide +16 making mine redundant. Thoughts?

[Deleted]

I would never take PSF Enchantment over PSK Divination but I would consider dropping IoF for something else. On my cleric I currently have IoF but there's many runs where I either don't play with a tank, play with tanks that don't need IoF (paladin, staffmaster, lash), or have a pariah/WC in the party that makes IoF rather redundant. If I were to reincarnate my cleric now I would probably drop transmutation for epic abjuration.

Additionally most of the tanks I mentioned are the most popular ones with the one big exception being barbarian.

It's pretty important for tanks to have +15 or higher GMW in nessus and most all abyss (+16 for bosses) though, so if you play with lots of tanks in party then you'll get more utility out of IoF than Abj (best alternative) focus.

In conclusion, please all bards eventually have PSF Enchant or be a warchanter and blame no GMW on them.

[Raj]

If you plan to play that toon in pugs a lot, better be able to provide all basics buffs.

That being said, the vast majority of bard builds (rightfully) include psf ench (the epic is a must, the psk is good, and the school is useful) so gmw comes from them; in bardless parties you can always hope for a wc, pariah, battle cleric, some div tank with ench foci or even a second caster cleric, or odd builds like ench mages; the chances of at least one of these showing and making you regret having invested too much in your gmw ability are actually quite high.

In parties without such options you have worse issues, but can always farm some toy gems.

[Deleted]

Also, LSF Enchant for clerics is only +14 GMW. It's PSF Enchant that'll get you +15.

[AW O'Reilly]

yeah, raj just straightened me out - still thinking no iof and now perhaps no leg ench either in favor of Abj. Going to have to work the sheet a bit, ty for the fast replies guys

[desocupado]

Go with PSK div, for sure.
Usually you can offset PSF Enchant with Energy drain/battletide, when rebuking (besides those lvl VIII slots are good for extend greater resto).

[buddhamind]

PSF Necro
PSK Necro
PSF Div
PSK Div
PSF Evo

Epic Trans
Epic Ench or Abj

And bingo, you've got the general consensus.

Currently I have Ench on my ploder although I do prefer the Abj epic. Items and Draughts for Abjuration are enough for banishing (And Energy drain the tough ones 1x, voila - instant banish). Though I certainly wouldn't complain if banishables popped faster.

Heralds and Pariahs are not common enough to warrant dropping Trans, and there are certain things that only +16 or greater will hit. Plus the cost of going PSF Ench is too high on a cleric.

[Deleted]

Epic Enchant is more valuable than Epic Trans in my opinion.

[AW O'Reilly]

Epic Trans isn't even in the running... The question posed in the OP is assumes "drop Trans like a bad habit"

[Deleted]

I understand what you are saying. I am simply arguing that taking Epic Trans for IoF is more efficient than trying to get PSF Enchant and does the same thing (provides GMW).

[buddhamind]

Dec 13, 2013 4:29:25 GMT @laser said:

I understand what you are saying. I am simply arguing that taking Epic Trans for IoF is more efficient than trying to get PSF Enchant and does the same thing (provides GMW).

I agree with this. I reincarnated mine from PSF Enchant and never looked back. The cost is far too high for something so common as +15 GMW.

Dropping Trans completely is fine though, cause the tanks can just get GMW from the bard.

[Yojimbo]

Besides Gate & 2x Miracle what reasons are there for Divination beyond ESF?

[buddhamind]

Gate and 2x Miracle are pretty much it. It also boosts Augury which is a nice perk.

[Yojimbo]

Mostly wondering because I have been considering a Divine Theurge which will have ESF Div for Miracle but thinking I will stop it with ESF as they can't use Gate so halving the reason to go beyond ESF.

[AW O'Reilly]

Thanks for all the input folks