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Post by condude on Aug 24, 2014 20:27:02 GMT
Why use Antipathy as a sorc spell instead of as a druid spell? Wouldn't GPB be a better choice?
Edit: Also, Matt, note that 2 of the great Cha feats are free with becoming a herald.
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Post by Vichya on Aug 25, 2014 4:23:53 GMT
I'd like to be able to spam Antipathy, and I don't have nearly enough druid spells with my gear setup to allow that. Thus I only use druid spells for buffs.
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Post by desocupado on Aug 25, 2014 5:19:57 GMT
(EDIT) Well Sorcerer level 8 is a toss between: (no particular order)
Greater Planar Bind Horrid Wilting Mass Charm Antipathy* Summon Creature VIII*
*Also a druid spell
However Druid's 8's are likely better spent on bombardment, premonition and storm tower.
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Post by Vichya on Aug 25, 2014 6:04:26 GMT
I use druid level 8 spells for premonition and storm tower. The latter is extremely good in some situations. And I'm not a big fan of summons, and in the parties I were playing there were a big waste of time. Planar binding on sorcerer level 6 is enough to get a good summon for Hades farming, you just have to cast it a few times to get something good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 19:58:57 GMT
You say the stat is a very easy choice but don't actually say which is better, at least not that i can easily tell. You then also say mnk splash is only worth it if you go Wisdom, which you do.. so i don't see why not at the loss of 1 SP. And does the Wisdom then act as the DC stat for all sorc spells as a HoS? Is there a better CC then the other right now?
Nub here needs some clarification.
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Post by desocupado on Feb 25, 2015 21:11:41 GMT
Regardless of CC you use the highest between wis cha for spell dc. Wisdom is also a better stat than Cha (it adds up for will saves)
As a rule you should think of Druid as a better CC for herald as it have more skills points, skill options and hp.
HOWEVER this build in particular took advantage of the Extra spell known feature, that only CC sorc get. This advantage is particularly good as it allows you to get more spells - which was the objective of op.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 18:01:49 GMT
Would taking a monk splash on this lose a feat or something? or like an extra spell from 23rd sorc level?
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Post by Yojimbo on Feb 26, 2015 21:20:19 GMT
L22 Sorc is 1 more L1 spell and L23 Sorc is 1st Epic Sorc feat.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 15:31:41 GMT
1 Druid Spell focus: Enchantment 2 Druid 3 Druid Greater spell focus: Enchantment 4 Druid 5 Druid 6 Druid Greater spell penetration 7 Druid 8 Druid 9 Druid Maximize spell 10 Druid 11 Druid 12 Druid Extend spell 13 Druid 14 Druid 15 Druid Empower spell 16 Druid 17 Sorceror 18 Sorceror Lightning reflexes 19 Sorceror 20 Sorceror 21 Sorceror Great wisdom III 22 Sorceror 23 Sorceror 24 Sorceror Great wisdom IV 25 Sorceror 26 Sorceror 27 Sorceror Great wisdom V 28 Sorceror 29 Sorceror 30 Sorceror Great wisdom VI 31 Sorceror 32 Sorceror 33 Sorceror Great wisdom VII 34 Sorceror 35 Sorceror Great charisma I 36 Sorceror Great wisdom VIII 37 Sorceror 38 Sorceror Great charisma II (started 15+2 from herald =17 +2 = 19 for lvl 9) 39 Druid Great wisdom IX 40 Monk 41 Sorceror 42 Sorceror Legendary Spell Penetration 43 Sorceror 44 Sorceror 45 Sorceror Legendary Spell Focus: Conjuration 46 Sorceror 47 Sorceror 48 Sorceror Legendary Spell Focus: Enchantment 49 Sorceror 50 Sorceror 51 Sorceror Legendary Spell Focus: Illusion 52 Sorceror 53 Sorceror 54 Sorceror Great wisdom X 55 Sorceror 56 Sorceror 57 Sorceror Extra Spell Knwn 58 Sorceror 59 Sorceror 60 Sorceror Extra Spell Knwn
I went for the mnk splash since i want the huge ac boost and dont care about exp pen... since at some point you're going to reach the next level anyway. Any thoughts?
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Post by MilesAtma_Redux on Mar 26, 2022 19:09:37 GMT
Great resource Vichya et al. I appreciate the play style guide. I'll be deciding on subby tonight after some deliberation.
-- Miles
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