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Post by Matt on Apr 17, 2015 7:22:31 GMT
Druid poison imm only protects against a few things.. Not osy, pf etc... Making con arti still superior over 1 ab, until con arti is changed or new insta kill checks are added for different saves there isn't much point using a different artifact on a melee character right now.
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Post by Paradoom on Apr 17, 2015 9:12:05 GMT
Plain and simple answer: I played this toon (with some personal adjustments) from scratch to high level. It is 6 times demi and has a price win by now (waiting to save pelor now). If it had such problems as dying from poison I would not have even bothered playing it, let alone post a build like this.
If you have no guts to go like this check my other build, which uses thunderborn as subby with a con arty.
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Post by Matt on Apr 17, 2015 12:08:11 GMT
I was just replying to buddhamind, if it works it works. But Con arti is still superior mwhahah.
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Post by tank on Apr 17, 2015 13:17:19 GMT
well I mean... you could avoid poison mobs I guess, but if you're in range and roll 1's you die. having the con arti is all about minimizing the risk.
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Post by Mister Pin on Apr 20, 2015 12:43:10 GMT
well I mean... you could avoid poison mobs I guess, but if you're in range and roll 1's you die. having the con arti is all about minimizing the risk. There ya go Tank- give him all your great Knowledge-ness! In the mean time, when you really want to contribute, . . . . . PLAY
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Post by tank on Apr 20, 2015 13:40:18 GMT
There ya go Tank- give him all your great Knowledge-ness! In the mean time, when you really want to contribute, . . . . . PLAY but... I do? anytime you want to start noticing things, be my guest. don't see how this has anything to do with the topic at hand though.
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Post by Mister Pin on Apr 20, 2015 13:54:10 GMT
There ya go Tank- give him all your great Knowledge-ness! In the mean time, when you really want to contribute, . . . . . PLAY but... I do? anytime you want to start noticing things, be my guest. don't see how this has anything to do with the topic at hand though. Really? I mean REALLY? Coming from you Tank, the Poster Child of Trolling. Wow. But then again, how many toons do you play? 2? I know you have a couple more than that, but the whole WHOPPING 2 that you do play are so bad ass ( thanks to all the people/guilds that pretty much carried your butt ) through all the areas to get them there. So what gives you the instinct in your vast play experience to come up with some basic common knowledge such as this? Does your experience with your 2 level 80 toons (shifter and staffmaster) give you the ability to know all? Numbers? They are gonna happen no matter what imms you get for a toon. I hope we see you come and play here and CONTRIBUTE to the game in a positive way, then we can all really take in what you have to say. Otherwise your "contibutions" are really pointless and don't do much good here. Have great day! Pin
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Post by tank on Apr 20, 2015 14:08:04 GMT
Really? I mean REALLY? Coming from you Tank, the Poster Child of Trolling. Wow. But then again, how many toons do you play? 2? I know you have a couple more than that, but the whole WHOPPING 2 that you do play are so bad ass ( thanks to all the people/guilds that pretty much carried your butt ) through all the areas to get them there. So what gives you the instinct in your vast play experience to come up with some basic common knowledge such as this? Does your experience with your 2 level 80 toons (shifter and staffmaster) give you the ability to know all? Numbers? They are gonna happen no matter what imms you get for a toon. I hope we see you come and play here and CONTRIBUTE to the game in a positive way, then we can all really take in what you have to say. Otherwise your "contibutions" are really pointless and don't do much good here. Have great day! Pin Well, seeing as I have two toons, a staff master and a shifter, I believe that gives me "vast" knowledge about the topic at hand. You see, staffmaster is a tank, so it uses con arti, and shifter has druid levels (unlocking druid level poison immunity) with no con arti,so everything you pointed out answers your question. I believe I am qualified enough to discussion the pros and cons of not taking a con arti and only having the basic level of poison immunity provided by druid levels. do you have any other nonsensical rants to spew?
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Post by Mister Pin on Apr 20, 2015 14:29:05 GMT
No Tank- you are the one and only. . . .
When you want to contribute in a positive way, I.E., actually play and help the few new people that are here, ( as i helped you ) you will be welcomed!
Pin
Apologies to Paradoom for disrupting this thread.
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Post by tank on Apr 20, 2015 14:43:27 GMT
No Tank- you are the one and only. . . . When you want to contribute in a positive way, I.E., actually play and help the few new people that are here, ( as i helped you ) you will be welcomed! Pin Apologies to Paradoom for disrupting this thread. 'kay
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 22:14:11 GMT
well I mean... you could avoid poison mobs I guess, but if you're in range and roll 1's you die. having the con arti is all about minimizing the risk. There ya go Tank- give him all your great Knowledge-ness! In the mean time, when you really want to contribute, . . . . . PLAY Everyone knows tank is a bit of a troll but in this case it appears to be *you* who has started going off-topic with the troll/flame, Mister Pin - your opinion on how recently active a player has been has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to discuss the pros/cons of a build. It's pretty disappointing to see, since most of the time you seem to be a responsible poster/player who recognises the importance of maintaining server harmony.
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Post by Mister Pin on Apr 20, 2015 23:07:35 GMT
There ya go Tank- give him all your great Knowledge-ness! In the mean time, when you really want to contribute, . . . . . PLAY Everyone knows tank is a bit of a troll but in this case it appears to be *you* who has started going off-topic with the troll/flame, Mister Pin - your opinion on how recently active a player has been has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to discuss the pros/cons of a build. It's pretty disappointing to see, since most of the time you seem to be a responsible poster/player who recognises the importance of maintaining server harmony. I apologize to those who read these forums. I apologize to those who are tired of seeing Trolling in its fine art. Yes, though Tank is the epitome of trolling/douche-baggery and rarely comes up with sound advice, and is flagrant in his ways, he is the absolute Deity of nothing else. And i am sorry to have disappointed you, who up to this point have had nothing to say at all, until i spoke up in the first place. till next time, Pin
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Post by tank on Apr 20, 2015 23:25:58 GMT
I apologize to those who read these forums. I apologize to those who are tired of seeing Trolling in its fine art. Yes, though Tank is the epitome of trolling/douche-baggery and rarely comes up with sound advice, and is flagrant in his ways, he is the absolute Deity of nothing else. And i am sorry to have disappointed you, who up to this point have had nothing to say at all, until i spoke up in the first place. till next time, Pin You know, you mention a whole lot about trolling - but if you took a second to read anything I've posted in this thread, you would see that I've done nothing but provide helpful information. Where as you have done nothing but insult and derail. Zero contribution to the topic at hand. It's almost to the point where it should be locked or just have all your posts deleted. Me a troll? Perhaps. But I at least provide information that people can use, rather than throwing personal attacks at people that make no sense / are undeserved.
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Post by Twilight Semner on Apr 21, 2015 0:19:01 GMT
Tank trolls lots of threads but he hasn't really done any of that in this one. I was a bit surprised by your outburst when I first saw it earlier Pin. It really came out of left field. Sometimes in our perceived us vs them forum war I guess we get a bit overzealous don't we?
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Post by chirality on Apr 21, 2015 1:50:02 GMT
Tank trolls lots of threads rest was tl;dr amirite anyway can we get back to the more pressing issues of this build? well, i forget what that was, something about fans? but srsly, you guys should just drop the poison thing, i mean after all it's not like eating con arti will magically transform a stormlord into something good?
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