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Post by Matt on Mar 6, 2016 18:19:43 GMT
----- You must be level 55 to wear this item ----- Wearing this item will cause any Freedom of Movement spells cast to grant it to all nearby allies at your CL ----- You will receive GSF Divination while wearing this item Base Item: Bracer Weight: 1.0 Special Properties: Armor Bonus: +15 (AC Armor Modifier) Bonus Feat: Greater Spell Focus (Divination) - tempted to say ESF would be ok too. Bonus Spell Slot: Druid Level 4 Bonus Spell Slot: Druid Level 5 Bonus Spell Slot: Druid Level 6 Bonus Spell Slot: Druid Level 7 Damage Immunity: Bludgeoning 10% Damage Immunity: Piercing 10% Damage Immunity: Slashing 10% Enhancement Bonus: Wisdom +12 Only Usable By: Druid Skill Bonus: Tumble +15 Skill Bonus: Spellcraft +15 Skill Bonus: Lore + 15 (Alternative to gloves below, most druids take Necro to paragon anyway)  |
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Post by chirality on Mar 7, 2016 6:46:11 GMT
(Alternative to gloves below, most druids take Necro to paragon anyway) So it's not really an alternative then, is it? Anyone who's not a nub (it's that simple) knows that PSK nec is a given on a druid. It's ridiculous to imply that a player lacking nec on a druid should be considered for serious development discussion. Not only are those abyss gloves (like 90% of abyss setloot) totally worthless, but it's fail logic to provide a tasty upgrade as an "alternative" to something bad. Aside from that, anyone who's not a nub knows that abj is an amazing investment on druid (harsh? this is supposed to be devtalk for future of HG, get over it), and should be taken for the cost:benefit ratio provided. Thus, your suggested gloves are not only worthless for anyone with a legit opinion on the matter (who takes abj past GSF regardless) but even worse, seem custom-tailored for a druid that doesn't pick abj (because they're a bad player who ignored abj--harsh? this is supposed to be serious suggestions for the future) and wants an easy shortcut to "mass FoM" (a laudable goal, but terrible way of delivering it; casting single-target FoM is indeed a pain in all our druid behinds, but should be addressed by some other means, like oh wow, how about Mass FoM spell--I've said it before years ago: stop trying to invent XR items to fix basic QoL issues that deserve solution anyway; TA is bad enough). In short, these gloves would be nothing less than a remarkable nobrainer to wear (for buffing alone), then swapped to something providing more solid and useful statistics (aka anything tanky / uber randomization/ego). We'd all love to see a way to give CL59+ FoM to party in one cast, but the reasoning behind this item fails to achieve legitimacy. |
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Post by Matt on Mar 7, 2016 9:59:41 GMT
Quite a few druids, pre paragon level at least, only get LSF in necro/trans/div possibly evo. Abj is another good (if you dont take div then you miss out on a lot) idea and can be fit in with paragon levels at the cost of swapping some feats around. Generally just a piece of loot, that is an alternative to those gloves "(of one or more things) available as another possibility or choice".
Your comment seems invalid since i said druids take necro anyway.... and this loot isnt tailored to only BUR races that can fit in every foci they want, like it sounds the way you're putting it. Plz no build derailerino Bale its boring.
FoM ability may be a bad idea, that doesn't fit with the glove theme, maybe just remove abj foci and make the gloves cast fonts at ESF/LSF level or something. That way they wouldn't be useless and could be a main slot piece.
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Post by desocupado on Mar 7, 2016 11:00:01 GMT
Maybe it could swap spellslots between classes with fom, including ranger and clerics.
If it had ac +16 it would make several robe users quite happy.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Mar 7, 2016 16:49:19 GMT
(Alternative to gloves below, most druids take Necro to paragon anyway) So it's not really an alternative then, is it? We'd all love to see a way to give CL59+ FoM to party in one cast, but the reasoning behind this item fails to achieve legitimacy. This is also not constructive criticism. See my last post to you on this subforum. Funky |
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Post by FunkySwerve on Mar 7, 2016 16:52:13 GMT
Maybe it could swap spellslots between classes with fom, including ranger and clerics. If it had ac +16 it would make several robe users quite happy. I'm thinking that might necessitate a class restriction, no? Funky |
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Post by FunkySwerve on Mar 7, 2016 16:53:10 GMT
----- You must be level 55 to wear this item -----*snip* Why the differences in non-SF statting? In particular the +12/+14 wis/con caught my eye. Thanks, Funky |
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Post by Matt on Mar 7, 2016 16:58:44 GMT
No real reason, wisdom is less useful actually now i think about it since both the abyss/tia belt give that stat and you're not going to ignore that item. Constitution is a better choice.
Theme of these with abj on it was towards banishing summoned creatures, so maybe giving +dc to unname or something similar would be good.
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Post by woqued on Mar 7, 2016 18:06:46 GMT
Druid Unname is a Divination spell, so Abjuration on GSF on these has really no purpose on Druid, as Abjuration spells reach power only on higher tiers or alternatively picked for the Epic spell Frailty.
Divination would indeed be a vastly more interesting choice - not sure I would wear it over a defensive gloves option with an augmenter, but it would certainly be more interesting.
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Post by Matt on Mar 7, 2016 18:10:15 GMT
Not sure why i thought unname was abj. Div it is.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Mar 9, 2016 4:04:29 GMT
Approved, though I am going con 14 instead of wis 12, based on your comment.
Thanks!
Funky
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