XR Upgrade to Half-Eladrin

[Deleted]

Was just having a look at the planned XR subraces and noticed there doesn't seem to be an XR upgrade to the Half-Eladrin BUR race (ie: small-sized Divine toons) - it's one of the coolest concepts IMO, is this intentional?

[Twilight Semner]

Oh, you mean this?

Feb 22, 2014 19:59:18 GMT FunkySwerve said:

Feb 22, 2014 19:56:32 GMT Twilight Semner said:

Actually looking back over the suggestions, it doesn't *have* to be Great Charisma I-II. Armor Skin and Epic Prowess, as Kaezar has suggested, are a bit more general and would still allow a player to choose Great CHA (or Great STR if they wanted).

Whups, sorry, meant to add those two per his suggestion, yes. No wonder the feat count looked odd to me.

Gnome
"Half-Shiradi" (secret eXtremely Rare; adds wings)
- FCs: Bard, Paladin
- +8 STR, +6 CHA, free feats: Armor Skin, Divine Might, Divine Shield, Epic Prowess, Extra Smiting, Mounted Combat
- Other: Levitation

Funky

[Deleted]

Oh awesome, sorry I did not see that post! So this is confirmed then?

[Twilight Semner]

I'm not sure if it was ever *confirmed* but it didn't seem that Funky had much, if any, opposition to it, especially considering it had a good bit of discussion before it reached its final form. Perhaps when the Funkmeister Supreme has a spare moment he can confirm.

[Li'l Rose]

Would be nice to have that subrace, since most of the other gnome XR subraces are made for changing the toon to larger size.

[FunkySwerve]

These are the subs that made the cut:


mysql> select * from sub_list where s_secret > 3;
+------+---------------------+-----------------+--------+----------+------------+-----------+------+--------------------------------------------------+
| s_id | s_name | s_aka | s_race | s_secret | s_favored | s_changes | s_sr | s_effects |
+------+---------------------+-----------------+--------+----------+------------+-----------+------+--------------------------------------------------+
| 126 | Jaebrin | | 2 | 4 | 2 | 10 | 0 | 68,9,0,4 |
| 127 | Half-Lillend | | 6 | 4 | 2 | 11 | 0 | 15,2 44,256,15 |
| 128 | Dream Dwarf | | 0 | 4 | 1076167938 | 14 | 0 | 64 |
| 129 | Kaorti | | 6 | 4 | 10 | 10 | 0 | |
| 130 | Illumian | | 6 | 4 | 11 | 10 | 0 | |
| 131 | Verdant Prince | | 4 | 4 | 4 | 10 | 0 | |
| 132 | God-Blooded | | 6 | 4 | 3 | 10 | 0 | |
| 133 | Ak~Chazar Rakshasa | | 2 | 4 | 336267811 | 15 | -5 | |
| 134 | Velsharoon~s Chosen | | 1 | 4 | 67832355 | 10 | 0 | 68,9,0,7 |
| 135 | Lolth-Touched | | 1 | 4 | 67308288 | 14 | 0 | |
| 136 | Half-Janni | | 6 | 4 | 3 | 10 | 0 | |
| 137 | Half-Efreeti | | 6 | 4 | 536880650 | 14 | 0 | |
| 138 | Half-Djinni | | 6 | 4 | 536880650 | 14 | 0 | |
| 139 | Vaati | | 6 | 4 | 2564 | 10 | 0 | |
| 140 | Air Ruvoka | | 6 | 4 | 2564 | 10 | 0 | 44,128,50 |
| 141 | Pech Lord | | 2 | 4 | 2561 | 10 | 0 | 3,8 73,485 |
| 142 | Favored of Primus | Favored of Gond | 2 | 4 | 2825 | 10 | 0 | |
| 143 | Lythari | Silver Shadow | 6 | 4 | 536880132 | 10 | 0 | |
| 144 | Phoelarch | Phoenixblooded | 2 | 4 | 536880650 | 15 | 0 | |
| 145 | Half-Storm Archon | | 1 | 4 | 268435460 | 11 | 0 | 44,128,50 |
| 146 | Half-Sword Archon | | 4 | 4 | 3 | 11 | 0 | |
| 147 | Corrupter of Fate | | 6 | 4 | 536879619 | 11 | 0 | |
| 148 | Fallen | | 4 | 4 | 536879114 | 15 | 0 | 73,459 73,460 73,461 73,462 73,463 |
| 149 | Loviatar~s Chosen | | 4 | 4 | 536879112 | 14 | 0 | |
| 150 | Half-Ogre Mage | | 5 | 4 | 536879627 | 10 | 0 | 3,4 |
| 151 | Ibixian | | 4 | 4 | 1612783623 | 15 | 0 | |
| 152 | Solarborn | | 4 | 4 | 1612783623 | 15 | 0 | 44,64,25 |
| 153 | Half-Excruciarch | | 4 | 4 | 536879109 | 14 | 0 | 44,524288,10 |
| 154 | Tanarukk | | 5 | 4 | 1 | 10 | 0 | |
| 155 | Favored of Mielikki | | 6 | 4 | 8 | 10 | 0 | |
| 156 | Xeph | | 1 | 4 | 8 | 11 | 0 | |
| 157 | Rhek | | 0 | 4 | 6 | 11 | 0 | 7,10,20,0 |
| 158 | Favored of Gruumsh | | 5 | 4 | 6 | 10 | 0 | |
| 159 | Armand | | 3 | 4 | 9 | 11 | 0 | |
| 160 | Urdunnir | | 0 | 4 | 536878089 | 14 | 0 | 15,2 |
| 161 | Half-Dogai | | 5 | 4 | 1075774721 | 14 | 0 | |
| 162 | Banshrae | | 3 | 4 | 1075775750 | 15 | 0 | |
| 163 | Dao-kin | | 0 | 4 | 536880389 | 10 | 0 | 44,1,15 44,2,15 44,4,15 |
| 164 | Dracotaur | | 0 | 4 | 1076234754 | 15 | 0 | |
| 165 | Killoren | | 6 | 4 | 8 | 10 | 0 | |
| 166 | Favored of Solonor | | 1 | 4 | 1142818059 | 10 | 0 | 72,80,1 |
| 167 | Buomman | | 3 | 4 | 3 | 14 | 0 | |
| 168 | Tulani | | 1 | 4 | 5 | 14 | 0 | |
| 169 | Shadowswyft | | 4 | 4 | 5 | 10 | 0 | 72,55,0 |
| 170 | Half-Goliath | | 5 | 4 | 5 | 10 | 0 | |
| 171 | Neraphim | | 6 | 4 | 5 | 15 | 0 | 44,16,10 44,32,10 44,128,10 44,256,10 44,2048,10 |
| 172 | Spiker | | 6 | 4 | 536879621 | 10 | 0 | 44,1,20 |
| 173 | Deathless | | 1 | 4 | 5 | 10 | 0 | |
| 174 | Alu-Fiend | | 4 | 4 | 1075840773 | 14 | 0 | 15,14 |
| 175 | Gith Precursor | | 4 | 4 | 460291 | 10 | 0 | |
+------+---------------------+-----------------+--------+----------+------------+-----------+------+--------------------------------------------------+
50 rows in set (0.00 sec)

I'm happy to look at others, but would like a little discussion.


Funky

[Twilight Semner]

Would be happy to discuss the fate of Half-Shiradi further, as I think there wasn't any opposition to it before, considering it was one of the few character builds that didn't get an XR race. But no rush.

On a different note though, which proposed changes, as discussed on forums and/or slack made the cut? And will Subrace Information thread be adjusted accordingly for those?

[FunkySwerve]

As of when? No sub edits have been made for about two years afaik. If we're gonna add some I would prefer to do in a batch of at least 3 or 4, because I will have to recheck some code to see what's what (overhead dev time).

Funky

[Deleted]

Ah, thanks for the confirmation post.

As you can infer from my creating the thread, I would be keen to see Half-Shiradi, or some alternative option, in the game.
Small-sized Paladins appear (at least just by skimming the list) to be the *only* highly-viable endgame class option which hasn't been provided a racial upgrade from BUR to XR.

Looks like there was already some previous discussion about potential statting, anyway IMO the proposed stats in Semner's quote look to be in line with the other XR races.