Cumbersome Darkness

[Matt]

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The Iron Silence spell on this armour is cast at CL 60. 
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This Mass Camouflage spell cast by this item is cast at CL 60.
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You must be Evil to wear this item.
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You must be level 70 to use this item.

Base Item: Armor (Medium)
Weight: 100.0

Special Properties:
Armor Bonus: +19 (AC Armor Modifier)
Bonus Feat: Epic Skill Focus Hide
Bonus Feat: Epic Skill Focus Listen
Damage Immunity: Bludgeoning 36% 
Damage Immunity: Piercing 34%
Damage Immunity: Slashing 32%
Damage Immunity: Negative Energy 25%
Damage Immunity: Electric 10%
Damage Immunity: Acid 10%
Damage Immunity: Cold 10%
Damage Immunity: Fire 10%
Damage Immunity: Sonic 10%
Enhancement Bonus: Dexterity +14
Enhancement Bonus: Charisma +14
Immunity: Fear
Immunity: Blindness
Improved Saving Throws: Negative Energy +10
Improved Saving Throws: Evil +5
Skill Bonus: +30 Hide
Skill Bonus: +10 Listen
Skill Bonus: +10 Spot
Spell Immunity: Entangle
Spell Immunity: Power Word Kill
Use: Mass Camouflage 2 Use/Day
Use: Iron Silence 2 Use/Day
Use Restriction: Evil

An upgrade to

[woqued]

Mar 13, 2016 11:02:03 GMT Matt said:

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The Iron Silence spell on this armour is cast at CL 60. 
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This Mass Camouflage spell cast by this item is cast at CL 60.
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You must be Evil to wear this item.
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You must be level 70 to use this item.

Base Item: Armor (Medium or Heavy?)
Weight: 100.0

Special Properties:
Armor Bonus: +19 (AC Armor Modifier)
Bonus Feat: Epic Skill Focus Hide
Bonus Feat: Epic Skill Focus Spot
Bonus Feat: Epic Skill Focus Listen
Damage Immunity: Bludgeoning 36% 
Damage Immunity: Piercing 34%
Damage Immunity: Slashing 32%
Damage Immunity: Negative Energy 25%
Damage Immunity: Electric 10%
Damage Immunity: Acid 10%
Damage Immunity: Cold 10%
Damage Immunity: Fire 10%
Damage Immunity: Sonic 10%
Enhancement Bonus: Dexterity +14
Enhancement Bonus: Charisma +14
Immunity: Fear
Immunity: Blindness
Improved Saving Throws: Negative Energy +10
Improved Saving Throws: Evil +5
Skill Bonus: +30 Hide
Skill Bonus: +10 Listen
Skill Bonus: +10 Spot
Use: Mass Camouflage 2 Use/Day
Use: Iron Silence 2 Use/Day
Use Restriction: Evil

An upgrade to
"The most unused armor in the game."

Not sure what you actually want to wear this armor on?

Looking at Paragon armors, you'd -never- wear this even as replacement for unrandomized ones - not counting for upward randomize or auged one. I mean LOOK at these (medium ones) 75% ele, exo red covered, 21% exo imms, saves, more stats... Just wham a Salamander aug on that and it's like this armor on steroids without Hide. Granted, no misc imms for Fear and blindness, and no ESF. But how much are you willing to sacrifice for these ESF's? Still, feels there is room to improve if you don't want another never-worn set item. 

Could easily fit in Negative Saves +15, change Blindness immunity into SpellImmunity: FoD and PowerWord: Kill - up elemental saves to 15% or even above to be more in line with Solar Forged Plate (BUR! Probably the most used Medium one, even on non-paladins), and make this armor buff Negative on your own weapon with 3 dices.. Or perhaps take a different direction while keeping the Negative / Evil outlook on it, but at least make it cover some of the mandatory reductions - be it physical, elemental, exotic or esoteric ones. That way you won't sacrifice all room to maneuver on the other slots just for the sake of wearing this item. I do like the idea of a Mass Camo armor, but... Perhaps better suited for light armor too?

[Matt]

Are you quoting it so we can see what edits i make? ;D

Is granting yoursef 66% conceal with camo not good enough to make it a wearable item? But i'll see what else fits.

[woqued]

Quoted because I couldn't find the link making button without doing it

I think not (Mass Camo make it wearable alone) - considering most parties have a druid. Might consider wearing it in a party without one. But Mass Camo CL 60 is indeed a nice thing to have no doubt, I should've mentioned that as one of the tradeoffs you would make wearing it.

[Matt]

Any other thoughts?

[desocupado]

I would remove evil restriction and add +10% for each elemental or change neg to 100%.

[Matt]

You mean top up the eles to 20% because they are already at 10%.

Can remove the use restriction if needs to be that way.

[simpetar]

Mar 13, 2016 11:42:43 GMT Matt said:

Is granting yoursef 66% conceal with camo not good enough to make it a wearable item? But i'll see what else fits.

Unfortunately this armor alone will not give you 66% conceal on its own. You need a class that
1. has access to Hide as class skill
2. would even consider wearing anything heavier than leather or robes
3. has conceal of their own that can be beaten by CL 60 camo.
This qualifies BGs, shifters, rogues and assassins. BGs already have enough armors to pick from, armors with slots, armors for quasis... Shifters usually prefer heavy plates, for the immunities and other goodies, plus the Iron Silence will be irrelevant, as soon as they shift. Str rogues usually wear light armors, because of their innately high dex and they do not want armor check penalties for skills. Assassins are good candidates for this one.

I think if you make this a light armor, instead of medium, if will be MUCH more appealing.

[desocupado]

Good point. Tough Assassin already have the iron camouflage.

What about flat camouflage as a property then?

[simpetar]

Mar 18, 2016 18:08:20 GMT desocupado said:

Good point. Tough Assassin already have the iron camouflage.

What about flat camouflage as a property then?

Assassin camo is cast at CL 50.