Gold sinks ideas

[desocupado]

Here some ideas:

Start an Avernus run as if someone had used a Hellstone -> 250 million (this helps more hell cycles to get started)
Writ of Passage -> 200 million (ease up hell run formation since every character can effectively skip one layer if needed)
Hellshop's beacon (usable on workshop - Return to zerial after leaving the shop) -> 100 million (since people will spend money there it doesn't need to be so expensive) //maybe it doesn't need to require demigodhood

Single Character Abyssal attunement -> 250 million (speed up abyss run formation in a pintch)

[rainbowdash]

But wait there is more:

Complete Demi circle: 1 billion since you are buying in bulk might aswell get a discount
Ego item of choice: I ve been playing here a long time and want one. Let's say 1.5 Billion so new players can enjoy it too
Abyss wand: 500 million well you need 5 of them no need to make them to expensive

just some ideas i came up with from the top of my head as gold sinks. Let me know what you think and if the gold values are to high. I think everybody could benefit from those changes and would be actually able to avoid doing runs all togehter.

Greets Dash

[Torin]

My opinion:

Buying consumable "key"-items: Maybe. But make them expensive.
Buying rewards or non-consumable items: No, never ever.

Some other ideas:

- In a reincarnation, the second subrace book that would be required to upgrade to a better subrace could be replaced with a buy able token.

- A buyable token that allows to get a hells tag even when the run is not done in the right order. (you have the blank token in the inventory. When a hell run is done that was not in the right order, it gets "filled" with that tag (and bound). The character can use it and get the tag any-time when the previous run was done).

[woqued]

200M for a Nessus secret that players pay 1b-2b fairly often in player trades; more often than that simply not selling and using themselves... Not sure about that.

The thought of buying keys is interesting. I think giving less incentive to run Hive/OtherKeyRuns is bad (because you don't need to go there for splinter/key); but it would also give a monetary value to Splinters (and other keys) as a guiding post for future trades ./ gained $$value for doing a LL run. The values would have to be much higher than what you proposed though to act as "gold sink" and not as a convenience to never go to LL areas again (from only-endgame player PoV).

The idea of a hellshop beacon is simply AMAZING to me though. I'd love that. Put a 500M+ Price tag on that (since you can SOS and Asmo in the other ppl who wanna come) for a fairer price; but then again if Stygia shop was more readily accessible (and not force other ppl to wait on a regular stygia run, feeling rushed and so on), then perhaps people would have more rods / consumables for better party performance -> Purely positive effect, so a lower price would in that sense be a good thing ---> which leads me to believe that Maybe instead of a goldsink it should simply be a set drop from various Hell Minibosses (Plag should definitely have a set drop besides a shoddy matrix!).

That being said, a combination of all these additions would mean I'd never ever ever ever ever visit stygia again; nor would many others I assume. I'd writ it and hells beacon to shop and thats it; same would apply to Cania; would simply not go there with these wages on Writs. Whether that speaks of underwhelming loot on those two particular layers or not is a question for another year.

[Deleted]

RainbowDash was perhaps a tad inflammatory, but yes - IMO these suggestions are poor 'gold sinks' because they are 1) extremely cheap, and 2) good enough bonuses that border "pay (a small sum) to win".
Gold sinks need to be expensive because the whole point is to reduce gold held by the wealthiest players who *genuinely* have little use for gold (ie: Electrifiers and UR augs on all toons + many billions left over) and thus control inflation.
Ideal gold sinks should minimise power boosts/simplification of the game, instead focusing on niche bonuses or minor quality of life boosts. Some possible ideas (some of which have come up in the past):

*10 billion - reduce current reincarnation cooldown by 30 days
*15 billion - gain a custom appearance (Badger's Challenge rules), which does NOT persist across reincarnation
*500 million - immediately grants access to all Epic Spells your character is eligible for (requires Level 60)

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Some of the other proposed ideas are more appropriate as straight additions to the game, not gold sinks:
*Demi-Shop Beacon is a good idea for a Set drop
*Second subrace book requirement should be reduced to ANY book of the desired tier
*Layers 2-8 of Hell should be allowed to be performed in any order
*Attunement should NOT be required to enter the Abyss; you should only need it to gain tags (ie: helpers can come along without Attunement)

[desocupado]

Actually they need to be somewhat cheap otherwise the "poor people" won't use their gold and it'll have no effect on the common people economy.
Rich people can still burn high amounts of cash on electrifier and augs. But that isn't enough to help economy outside making them privileged.


What I mean is newer people's low amount of gold will still be useless if those consumables are expensive thus they wouldn't be as used. If their only 1 billion in bank is worth something (let's say 2 Tia runs and two writs) they would have a position to barter for a lower price on that undying book the vet offers.

Consider this if you skip 4 layers you make no gold on hells cycle instead of making 0.5-1 bil. Everyone could potentially do that and we would remove billions from each collective cycle. If this isn't sinking gold I don't know what is.
By felling somewhat cheap everyone would buy these consumables multiple times.

[woqued]

"Poor people" already have purposes for gold that they don't need "sinks" - forging items, weapon crafting, demishop rods, fixing limbo'd/echoed/slagged items, non-UR tier augmenters, and actual player/player trading for commodities such as stat artifacts, subraces, crucibles, shifter tomes, epic books and so forth. When I was starting out I was always short on gold for a long time and I never really felt I needed extra sinks to spend my gold on.

On a separate note it's a bugger that the rare augs have risen in price to above 100m; when I was starting out they were in the 20m range and that felt super helpful as a new player straightening UR gear / poor quality BUR gear to be Hells/Abyss ready. I see people running around with unauged gear and now it is understandable because they are so expensive.

[Raj]

Oct 31, 2016 10:14:27 GMT desocupado said:

Consider this if you skip 4 layers you make no gold on hells cycle instead of making 0.5-1 bil. Everyone could potentially do that and we would remove billions from each collective cycle. If this isn't sinking gold I don't know what is.

It's you being silly, because people would do something else in the saved time.

Fwiw, filthy rich people became so by doing a lot of unnecessary runs, poor people only partecipate into runs where they tag.

[desocupado]

Oct 31, 2016 17:14:45 GMT Raj said:

It's you being silly, because people would do something else in the saved time.

Fwiw, filthy rich people became so by doing a lot of runs.

- fixed -
Necessary runs on the massive tags chains also provided gold - You get gold because you played adequate difficulty runs (being forced to do desert-db-thids for hellstone does not count). If you don't participate in runs because you won't tag, obviously you don't get gold. But then why should we blame someone that do something else (instead of playing HG) if the run reward prospect isn't attractive?
Personally I don't mind not tagging doing Elysium or Aboleth (because there's no tag chain involved). Tough I find both runs a bit too long (same goes for abyss 1-3 which I was introduced by the DTs a long time ago - unfortunately it conflicts with my weekly schedule and the daylight saving time). Same goes for abo, I had fun doing it with you and tank (I think it was just us 3).

Let's not forget that abyss used to wield twice as much gold drops (I have some memories of getting over 500 mil for an abyss part 1-3).

Still you got a point on the sense that participating in runs just for drops and xp will make you amass gold but it's a simple matter of gold being a generic award for time played. If you don't have an attractive prospect for spending it, you will hoard it - that's why it's important to have really attractive consumables.


For instance while Poly just pointed some things I would really like to pay for (cut reincarnation time, cut epic spell grabbage) - I wouldn't spend so much on it. I wouldn't pay 2 bil to cut reset reincarnation timer to 0 - it feels too much for me (assuming a rate of 100 mil per hour - 20 hours - on his example we would 100 hours).
The same goes for the epic spells - it's too expensive. If someone paid me 500mil to give them all epic spells I would do that for them gladly.



Keep in mind people that buy those consumables aren't saving time as if they have to play - They play for fun because they feel like it.
Let's say someone finished a hell cycle in 6h using 4 writs instead of 10h it would take for all layers (skipping Dis phleg malboge cania). That person then could play another 5h and buy another 4 writs pack and finish another cycle (let's say the person got stronger buddies and is more experienced). The person was highly motivated to play those 11h (and got to his tag objective) but earned zero gold.
Like this there is a reduced input of gold compared to drops thereof it is a gold sink and there will be way less gold around.

This gave an idea for another one for richer people:

XXX mil - Random rare aug
XXX bil - Random UR aug

It probably should have some categorization (spell focus, weapon related (by proficiency type), status immunity, damage immunity) but broad enough to people actually not getting their specific needs easily - prices could be around 50-75% of the mean price of all aug in that category.

[Deleted]

Oct 31, 2016 19:46:08 GMT desocupado said:

For instance while Poly just pointed some things I would really like to pay for (cut reincarnation time, cut epic spell grabbage) - I wouldn't spend so much on it. I wouldn't pay 2 bil to cut reset reincarnation timer to 0 - it feels too much for me (assuming a rate of 100 mil per hour - 20 hours - on his example we would 100 hours).
The same goes for the epic spells - it's too expensive. If someone paid me 500mil to give them all epic spells I would do that for them gladly.

That's the point; it's not designed for you. There are a small number of extremely rich players that would barely blink over spending 60 billion to do an instant triple-reinc (ie: total build change). The fact that it feels too expensive for you is why people with your bankroll don't need gold sinks at all - gold sinks are required for the players who have so much gold that it literally means nothing to them, which causes inflation of endgame loot and warps the economy for the rest of the server.

There is a world of difference between "removing 60 billion from the richest player's wallet" and "removing 100 million from 600 typical players' wallets", even though they both take 60 billion out of circulation. I think that this is something you are failing to grasp.

[desocupado]

I'm not failing at that - I already recognized that there are two types of people - the ones that farmed 600 hours for 60 bil (mind you the person can significantly reduce this if he does some trades - but then a trade between players doesn't affect the gold in market it's still a 600 hours playtime) and the "regular" people. THere are already several luxury options.


Features should also be aimed at the person with the shallow pockets - their gold must be burned to avoid amassing too much gold and preventing the situation all over again.
If the poor people value their gold, the person with 60 bill will actually have people trading with him for his gold BUT the people trading with him won't accept absurd prices because his own gold is valuable for him.


Well many people would buy a 50 bil service - make it so - 50 bil for a unrestricted reincarnation - maybe an offer open for just one month can make people rush it. It'll also lead to those people selling lots of gear to amass more gold... Who knows...


Still the logic is simple - use gold to buy consumable things that are just a time saver - trade people's time award for time saving things.

[FunkySwerve]

Time to inject some facts:


mysql> select wb_balance,wb_tstamp from wallet_balance where wb_balance > 9999999999 order by wb_balance;
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135 rows in set (0.00 sec)

So, there are 135 players that have at least 10 billion. The rest of you are just a bunch of single-digit billionaires.

FWIW, two of those are HC accounts.

Here's that same info reordered by date of last wallet access:


mysql> select wb_balance,wb_tstamp from wallet_balance where wb_balance > 9999999999 order by wb_tstamp;
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+--------------+---------------------+
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Looks like many of them are still active.

Also looks like its time for some conservative monetary policy to shrink the inflationary money supply. So, as of .... NOW ... Waukeen hereby unleashes the xorns into your bank vaults. Each day they will consume monies deposited in the vault, nibbling away at your sexy billions, a few million at a time. Hey, they're hungry little beasties. USE IT OR LOSE IT.

The Xorn will consume your precious coins at a logarithmic rate inversely proportional to the size of your stash.

Fun fact: for the wealthiest bank account, losing 1,000,000 per second, it would still take over 9 days to disappear entirely.

So, let Cashpocalypse Now commence! Just kidding. OR AM I??

Funky

(yes. yes I am.)

[tank]

just let me buy hell/abyss tags with cold hard cash bro

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Oct 30, 2016 8:55:26 GMT rainbowdash said:

But wait there is more:

Complete Demi circle: 1 billion since you are buying in bulk might aswell get a discount
Ego item of choice: I ve been playing here a long time and want one. Let's say 1.5 Billion so new players can enjoy it too
Abyss wand: 500 million well you need 5 of them no need to make them to expensive

just some ideas i came up with from the top of my head as gold sinks. Let me know what you think and if the gold values are to high. I think everybody could benefit from those changes and would be actually able to avoid doing runs all togehter.

Greets Dash

Yes...or take this the opposite direction. Opening Tia now costs a hellstone and 500 million. Opening the portal to Asmo room now costs a plag key and 1 billion. The possibilities are endless!

Another idea is selling forge secrets for rerandomizing (not talking about stuff like serpent's blood- think LL secrets especially). People go nuts over gambling. Now you can spend money endlessly to try to rerand gear! Bonus if you can spend extra money for higher improved rerand stats!