Let's talk about weapon related buffs

[desocupado]

• 1 - What do you like/hate about the current weapon buff spells?
• 2 - What do you think should/could be done?
• 3 - What about other weapon buff abilities? Do you see any issue on them?

Here a comprehensive list of weapons buffs (related stuff) for reference

Enhancement bonuses
Greater Magic weapon - Increases enchantment bonus (AB and DMG)
Instruments of Faith - Stronger GMW

Non physical damage buffs
Elemental buffs (Caustic, Shock, Flame, Frost, Clang) - Increase the number of damage dice, also include barbarian's thundering rage
Exotic weapon buffs (Divine, Magic, Negative, Positive) - Increase the number of damage dice, also include SD's weapon boost

Unique buffs
Keen Edge/Needle Point/Weapon of Impact - Increases weapon's critical threat range i.e. overall damage against most foes
Holy sword (breach/dispell on hit)
Blade Thirst (Vampiric regen + other effects + only source of positive damage boost) - Vulnerability infliction as Lash of hatred
Gary's Exacting Lens - Remove critical immunity (not exactly a weapon buff - but then only weapon cause critical hits)
Tempered Arms - Weapons no longer heal foes on hit (if they can absorb the damage type)


Physical Damage buffs
Divine Might - Extra damage
Fighter's Wheatstone (+Physical damage)
Divine Wrath - Extra attack / BAB / Physical damage
Mighty Rage - Physical damage
Call Weaponspren - Physical damage boost

On hit effects / non integrated damage
Assassin Sccarbard - Add separated damage packet / chance to instant kill)
Gnomish Inventor - Extra packet of damage, on hit effect
Slinger - Extra damage and custom effects

Toogleable damage
Black Staff (High AB + Toggle-able damage that overwrites regular damage bonus)
Arcane Marksman - Toggle-able Damage choice
Slinger - Extra damage and custom effects

Extra attacks
Divine power - Extra attacks / BAB
Tenser's Transformation - Extra attacks / BAB
Divine Wrath - Extra attack / BAB / Physical damage
Harper Secret - Extra attacks
Shadow Evade - Extra attack


Accuracy boost
True strike (Short lived AB boost - doesn't require a weapon)
Invisibility Purge (Reduces concealment)
Mass Spell Destruction - Reduces concealment
Divine power - Extra attacks / BAB
Tenser's Transformation - Extra attacks / BAB
Divine Wrath - Extra attack / BAB / Physical damage

[fallenwizard]

Hate - No love for ranged weapons (read AA bow)
Like - cap between str and dex is smaller
Hate - dex tanks think they can be good

Apart from implementing some boost to ranged weps, wep buffs are more or less fine imo. Issue lies in 2han/doubwep/singlewep/finesse balancing

[desocupado]

Jan 12, 2017 11:02:40 GMT desocupado said:

• 1 - What do you like/hate about the current weapon buff spells?
• 2 - What do you think should/could be done?
• 3 - What about other weapon buff abilities? Do you see any issue on them?

1
Like: Weapon buff spells create a synergy between casters and tanks (and summons). They also override limitation of the engine.
Dislike: The gameplay around the spells is totally passive (fire and forget). It creates a mandatory begging phase. Most damage types are nearly useless without the buffs.

2
Idea: Weapon buffs could be short lived spells without being mandatory passive effects.

3
Many abilities have too few uses in my opinion. The uses aren't a major issue when you are well geared/experienced but tend to be too few when you are just starting.
There are too few on hit effects (status/spells on hit, debuffs).
Active skills that could be more wide spread (slinger/AA stuff) or even damage toggles like AAs, Rangers, Slingers and StaffMasters.
Also things like Divine Wrath and Shadow evade would be more interesting if some of their effects were short lived buffs (while some features are permanently moved into the class). Such short lived buffs (Fighter's mini immute being the prime example) feel like an epic spell (a strong effect with a limit) and that's fun.

[manuka]

Tank legendary and paragon abilitys would be cool, kinda like epic and para spells for casters.
Could be smthn like paragon massacre.
Requires paragon wep foci and gives 5 extra attacks and immunity to all disables for 10 rounds