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Post by navadae on Sept 14, 2017 16:14:54 GMT
So I had not known at the time debuffing people was an offense (i haven't done it, mind you, just kind of figured par-for-the-course in open pvp areas, im used to it from other servers) but was told it wasn't exactly accepted. I had been heading towards anduin ruins and someone popped in and started throwing debuffs on me, threw my saves and damage to the wind.. I didn't have a picture of that but i do have one of the failed resistances i put up Attachments:
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Post by simpetar on Sept 14, 2017 21:42:40 GMT
I would add that Navadae and I were working on the Anduin Staff thing and this incident took place on server 311 shortly after I left. At first I thought the debuffs were coming from Troll Shamans who populate that area, but... apparently not. COME ON! Picking on an obviously new player is like taking a candy from a kid, and on top of that it is a textbook violation of HG PvP rules.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 21:48:39 GMT
Did Navadae have a Rad Gen book?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 22:50:59 GMT
This is not at all what happened.
Simp was on the server helping this person. I log on and ask Simp about a Stygia. He declines indicating he is briefly helping this person and then going to do Drow, Lloth, and Immo. I decide to go get a staff for my alts I'll be making. I pop down to Anduin and this person is there. I start my buff queue, buff fully, and then go on my way. This person walks over into range of my character while buffs are going off and is impacted by some of them is my guess. Like Prayer? It's clearly evident I am buffing here. And the multiple checks possibly could have been my Battle-Tide? The item used my my Cleric Staff.
I did not in anyway target this person, or go out of my way to harass or otherwise adversely impact their experience. No one notified me of any actions or things they were doing on the server. All I got were a few tells about being debuffed by me. I mentioned it could have been Prayer, or whatever else is in my queue and that I was unaware unpartied players could be impacted.
Conveniently the conversation we had regarding what possibly could have caused it was left out of the screenshots. I was specifically asked if I was targeting them and informed them that was not the case. It's clearly evident I am buffing here. And the multiple checks possibly could have been my Battle-Tide? The item used is my Cleric Staff.
As we can see, assumptions were immediately jumped to about intent which is entirely ridiculous.
A guy standing in front of you casting multiple spells which as this person said had them "in awe and terrified". They clearly were watching me buff. This is a non-issue. They asked what was happening, I explained what I was doing, and went on my way.
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 22:58:17 GMT
I am just wondering why, with all the available servers, did you choose to go down to Anduins when it was already occupied with a lowbie leveler? Just curious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 23:04:05 GMT
I was already on the server because I was talking to Simp. I had limited time because of lunch plans and wanted to get something done. So, I went and did just that. This person sends me a tell asking if I was targeting them with anything, I said no, I was just buffing. I informed them of what was going on. I mentioned the possible ability it could have been. They said nothing else. I went and completed my task and left.
How can I? Or anyone else for that matter, given that interaction, assume that the other person felt like they were being personally targeted and abused?
And simp, really? You really think I'd go out of my way to mess with this person? I've never in my playing here ever messed with anyones lowbie. I make one dumb choice to steal a book over 3 years ago, and I was kind of rough around the edges personality wise years ago and that was it. I have never, and would never mess with someone. I hate lowbie leveling more than anyone on this server. I know it sucks. And I wouldn't inhibit or adversely impact anyone else who is suffering through the same hell hole, much less someone new to the server.
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Post by Werehound Silverfang on Sept 15, 2017 0:18:06 GMT
So I had not known at the time debuffing people was an offense (i haven't done it, mind you, just kind of figured par-for-the-course in open pvp areas, im used to it from other servers) but was told it wasn't exactly accepted. I had been heading towards anduin ruins and someone popped in and started throwing debuffs on me, threw my saves and damage to the wind.. I didn't have a picture of that but i do have one of the failed resistances i put up I don't see any debuffs being cast on you; your SR never changes, no checks are made, no debuff messages, and no visible negative effects are applied. Please provide more information. From what's been posted it looks like prepared ran over you with Battletide. Some people are oblivious like that.
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Post by Test on Sept 15, 2017 2:34:46 GMT
So I had not known at the time debuffing people was an offense (i haven't done it, mind you, just kind of figured par-for-the-course in open pvp areas, im used to it from other servers) but was told it wasn't exactly accepted. I had been heading towards anduin ruins and someone popped in and started throwing debuffs on me, threw my saves and damage to the wind.. I didn't have a picture of that but i do have one of the failed resistances i put up I don't see any debuffs being cast on you; your SR never changes, no checks are made, no debuff messages, and no visible negative effects are applied. Please provide more information. From what's been posted it looks like prepared ran over you with Battletide.
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Post by dopplegang on Sept 15, 2017 3:46:47 GMT
Yeah I don't see any specific malice anywhere in that. If you wanted to grief someone you don't do it by walking next to them with battletide and prayer. You pickpocket them or kill them. This is just misunderstanding.
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Post by simpetar on Sept 15, 2017 4:33:42 GMT
Sorry, I was hoping it would be just a misunderstanding, it just looked incredibly suspicious but outlandish at the same time. I made the suggestion to Navadae to make a screenie and post it here based on the tells I got from her.
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Post by dopplegang on Sept 15, 2017 10:01:28 GMT
Yes that was the best idea anyway, so the confusion can be clarified, you capture it and ask the question. I see no malice whatsoever in these actions, only confusion and accidental positioning of players.
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Post by dynneroth on Sept 15, 2017 15:28:06 GMT
And not that this has anything to do with what happened, but Navadae if you need help and I'm on, just ask. If I'm not committed to something already, I'll be glad to help.
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