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Post by Tru3Fals3 on Aug 2, 2019 5:16:58 GMT
is there a known issue with x7 demi stat check and save bonus not applying? havent recieved either on my fighter who i got x7 on yesterday, jumped to a bunch of servers and checked again after they had reset and still no change.
the toon is Monza Murcatto on account Tru3Fals3 Tank1
doesnt appear to be getting the +10 to the skills either from demi x6
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Post by drunkenboastor on Aug 2, 2019 17:33:44 GMT
The +2 stacking for saving throws from x7 demigod, should actually read +2 fortitude, +2 reflex and +2 will. Does stack with the +1 to fortitude, +1 reflex and +1 will from prell tags. When combined with bard song and items that give specific save bonuses to F/R/W, can reach +25 to the save. !list save to check. The +2 bonus does not apply to specific saves like electrical, mind, or poison that can cap to +30.
The +10 to skills is part of the +50 cap. And does stack with the +5 from !prell tags.
I have not heard of players having issues with x7 bonuses, but not all are really aware of them.
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Post by Tru3Fals3 on Aug 3, 2019 1:48:57 GMT
The +2 stacking for saving throws from x7 demigod, should actually read +2 fortitude, +2 reflex and +2 will. Does stack with the +1 to fortitude, +1 reflex and +1 will from prell tags. When combined with bard song and items that give specific save bonuses to F/R/W, can reach +25 to the save. !list save to check. The +2 bonus does not apply to specific saves like electrical, mind, or poison that can cap to +30. The +10 to skills is part of the +50 cap. And does stack with the +5 from !prell tags. I have not heard of players having issues with x7 bonuses, but not all are really aware of them. its not affecting f/r/w at all, im getting base/stat/feats/+20, does that mean it only counts if you have specific save bonuses for individual f/r/w saves that pull it above 20? im aware the skills bonus falls within the +50 cap and that hasnt implememented either |
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Post by Tru3Fals3 on Aug 3, 2019 1:53:13 GMT
actually looking at it, i dont think ive gotten any demi bonuses apart from the stats at x2
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Post by drunkenboastor on Aug 3, 2019 17:02:07 GMT
Universal saving throw bonuses from equipment will not combine with specific saving throw bonuses to exceed the +20 cap. Fortitude, reflex and will saving throws need items with specific bonuses to the save to hit the +25 cap. The save bonus from prell tags, bard song and demigod bonus are all bonuses that fall within the +25 cap.
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Post by simpetar on Aug 3, 2019 18:18:06 GMT
Universal saving throw bonuses from equipment will not combine with specific saving throw bonuses to exceed the +20 cap. Fortitude, reflex and will saving throws need items with specific bonuses to the save to hit the +25 cap. The save bonus from prell tags, bard song and demigod bonus are all bonuses that fall within the +25 cap. And to complicate it even further, specific saves vs. X (e.g. elf Hardiness vs. Enchantments, +2 vs. mind spells) stack with universal saves, up to +30, rather than capping at +20  Anyways, just checked my x7 bard: same issue. "!list skills" shows that all skills are 10 points below what they should be (naked, no buffs). x7 demi do not seem to apply, only lowbie tags do. Same case for saves, "!list saves" shows only +3 magical bonus which comes from lowbie tags, bonuses from asmo kills are missing. |
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Post by drunkenboastor on Aug 3, 2019 18:53:37 GMT
I have checked multiple characters, I am definitely getting the +10 to skills from the x6 on all of them.
The skills that are affected by demigod bonuses are Heal, Taunt, Bluff, Persuade, Hide, Concentration, Lore, Animal Empathy, Appraise, Discipline, Craft Armor, Craft Trap, Craft Weapon, Listen and Parry.
Prell tags only give +1 to each save. If you are getting +3, then it is how it should be for a x7.
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Post by Tru3Fals3 on Aug 10, 2019 0:26:35 GMT
ok so after a whole bunch of testing on naked toons db is correct (thank you!)
what i was missing was the 10 points for epic skill focus because i assumed it added 10 points to your skill (was changed on my old server to do so) instead of just applying to checks
the saves things is a bit of a disapointment as i was under the impression it was a hard +2 to f/r/w instead of only stacking with specfic saves so ill just not count it at all in my future builds.
cheers for the help
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Post by Tru3Fals3 on Aug 12, 2019 10:04:13 GMT
so heres the weird thing, if i have an :of the salamander" aug or one of the esf listen helms on, it adds the sf/esf to my listen total, but when i just have the actual feat it doesnt
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