|
Post by chirality on Jan 24, 2020 16:27:14 GMT
the latter. like limbo, as in you pick easy or hard and the spawns reflect the choice. no shackling.
|
|
|
Post by drunkenboastor on Jan 24, 2020 20:55:59 GMT
These elemental planes bosses are really supposed to be for newish immortals and having energons spawning on soloers was never part of the design anyway. I also saw not a few players give up rather than fighting them. -S If you do not know how to kill an Energon, they are impossible. But when you do, they are not that difficult to defeat. That is a statement can be made about many creatures in the game, but with Energons every class has something available to defeat them with.
|
|
|
Post by drunkenboastor on Feb 2, 2020 3:54:08 GMT
I was trying to do some elemental Princes today solo. I still did get Energons as a solo player.
As a side note, I had very poor luck with the Primal Elementals from dropping keys, I killed 4 of each of Earth, Water and Fire with none dropping keys, and I killed 8 Air and had just 1 key drop. Clearing an elemental planes map as a solo player, there tends to be 1-3 Primals. I had to clear a lot of maps to get just 1 key. Maybe my luck was poor, but that seems like a drop rate that is to low. The incentive for a drop rate being that low is to hop from server to server in GS and just hunt Primals.
|
|
|
Post by Enius the White on Feb 2, 2020 19:25:36 GMT
As a side note, I had very poor luck with the Primal Elementals from dropping keys, I killed 4 of each of Earth, Water and Fire with none dropping keys, and I killed 8 Air and had just 1 key drop. Clearing an elemental planes map as a solo player, there tends to be 1-3 Primals. I had to clear a lot of maps to get just 1 key. Maybe my luck was poor, but that seems like a drop rate that is to low. The incentive for a drop rate being that low is to hop from server to server in GS and just hunt Primals. As side note to this side note, I ran through the planes to check out the bosses and get some tags. I agree that for solo play the Primal Elementals could spawn more frequently, or the key drop rate could be upped a bit. The first 5 tags were reasonable, with just a few logs/waits for maps to respawn for more Primal Elementals, and I did get lucky on the 5th boss being the needed alternate alignment. Going for the key for the 6th tag I timed out the server after 5 logs/waits for respawn, map clears, with no key drop. I saw it as more of a low solo-play Primal Elemental spawn rate (1-3 Primals/map, as per drunkenboastor's observation), rather than key drop rate, but 6-in-one... Very low sample size, of course, but contributing fwiw. I never ground out enough keys to complete the potentially repetitive 50/50 evil/good boss iterations needed to get all 8 tags, but I can see that it might be a bit onerous to complete the solo route for the purpose of tagging. The higher spawn rate for any party, or maybe even a bot, would likely ameliorate this, and that's fair enough. Having some control over the spawn mode/rate, as has been proposed elsewhere, would be perfect here, if fostering solo play-ability is desirable. That all said, nice work on these bosses/tags, thank you! Combat balance, loot, and area design are all right on the mark, and well worth the playing time. These bosses have effectively made the Elemental Planes a viable, fun, small party, level appropriate run addition to HG.
|
|
|
Post by drunkenboastor on Feb 6, 2020 23:26:51 GMT
Today I was trying to solo farm The Crystalized Primal Air Elemental today. I server hopped between 3 servers just doing Deep Air. I got 1 from killing 26 Primal Air Elementals. I am unsure how many maps I cleared, but this drop rate seems to be unreasonable.
|
|
|
Post by drunkenboastor on Feb 7, 2020 20:24:07 GMT
You guys changed something. Before you could have multiple keys. Now, if you already have a key in your inventory, another will not drop.
My whiny previous posts were failures because I did not read.
|
|
|
Post by sabregirl on Feb 8, 2020 5:39:26 GMT
That particular hotfix was at the same time the energons were reduced.
-S
|
|
|
Post by drunkenboastor on Mar 26, 2020 21:45:56 GMT
There needs to be a better way to allow access to elemental princes besides trying to farm keys that randomly drop. Again I have problems with drops, 24 primal earth elementals killed with no crystalized primal earth dropping. It is stupid to have to run a map more than 10 times and have no key drop.
|
|
|
Post by Methes on Mar 26, 2020 23:08:28 GMT
Welcome to the world of artifacts, portable holes, runes of return and other *fun* random based loot.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 23:16:29 GMT
It keeps the soloer's busy! It's the beauty of NWN. RNG.
|
|