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Post by tomaan on Dec 17, 2020 15:18:31 GMT
Harper Scout is still full abandon ship. I don't know about that. dual wield 35R/5HS will be a beast...especially if the extra attack from ETWF stacks. Not to mention Mini shut + moliated boots = 43% elemental immunity
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Post by Pulpo on Dec 17, 2020 15:55:19 GMT
Harper Scout is still full abandon ship. I don't know about that. dual wield 35R/5HS will be a beast...especially if the extra attack from ETWF stacks. Not to mention Mini shut + moliated boots = 43% elemental immunity That’s a Big IF. In my experience in games and in Life you should prepare for the worst and not be surprised but ready for it when it presents itself. Being months out from actually testing all this doesn’t help. Basically all theories based on guesses of future areas and meta-shifting still plays a huge part. Not to mention months of limbo to build canos to roll on weapons that is napkin-mathed at being 4% of getting a pair of weapons that you actually need cause trade is 8 people half of which have an inside as to what is “Going” to be good and won’t trade them unless it’s ridiculously favorable to them. If you even suggest on the forums to lower 1 h xr gambling prices or a system to allow you to somewhat target a race you want to build off of you get stoned and chided to death. It’s all pretty depressing actually. This is coming from some who probably does more limbo runs per week than anyone on the server for at least the last two months. Pretty Stark indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 16:08:18 GMT
Moliated boots were only worth it before because you HAD to wear them for the buff. Now that the buff isn’t tied to the slot and any boots can be worn there is zero reason to ever wear either iteration of the Wanderer Boots.
The investment you’re making by splashing 5 Harper on a ranger for what you get, effectively 6 minutes of attacks is not even remotely worth it in my opinion.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Dec 17, 2020 16:15:27 GMT
Tbh with that being the case i would go for 4min x3 duration and for dual weild or 1h gets a 20% longer duration. Also if these recent changes to 2h damage is to even the playing field i feel a better option would be to put back the 40% 2h damage, remove mass haste as a spell and throw in the dual weild buffs. Because the biggest problem with balancing dual and 2h is apr buffs Sure, let's just undo all the very necessasry nerfs because...? Are we pretending that I meant there was only one axis to balancing? I think my post above made clear otherwise. Funky
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 16:34:19 GMT
I don't know about that. dual wield 35R/5HS will be a beast...especially if the extra attack from ETWF stacks. Not to mention Mini shut + moliated boots = 43% elemental immunity ... getting a pair of weapons that you actually need cause trade is 8 people half of which have an inside as to what is “Going” to be good and won’t trade them unless it’s ridiculously favorable to them. curious who these 4 people are
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Post by tomaan on Dec 17, 2020 16:36:04 GMT
I don't know about that. dual wield 35R/5HS will be a beast...especially if the extra attack from ETWF stacks. Not to mention Mini shut + moliated boots = 43% elemental immunity That’s a Big IF. In my experience in games and in Life you should prepare for the worst and not be surprised but ready for it when it presents itself. I only build based on what's currently available, not on ideas that are being openly discussed or items I don't have. And, in the interest of open discussion, I'd have to say that stacking those attacks might be too OP....especially (big) IF the other changes happen.
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Post by Pulpo on Dec 17, 2020 16:38:44 GMT
... getting a pair of weapons that you actually need cause trade is 8 people half of which have an inside as to what is “Going” to be good and won’t trade them unless it’s ridiculously favorable to them. curious who these 4 people are Just an extrapolated number scientifically derived from the my depression smattered with frustration and ignorance mixed in with feeling blah. Let the Stoning Begin.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Dec 17, 2020 16:46:41 GMT
Dual wield will be king, everyone pivot there. Harper Scout is still full abandon ship. Everyone stockpile medium weps! On what are we basing this brazen assessment, praytell? Without any of the relevant information about, say, dex requirement / stacking? Clearly something other than sound judgment based on facts, which makes me suspect this is more motivated reasoning than anything else. Moliated boots were only worth it before because you HAD to wear them for the buff. Now that the buff isn’t tied to the slot and any boots can be worn there is zero reason to ever wear either iteration of the Wanderer Boots. The investment you’re making by splashing 5 Harper on a ranger for what you get, effectively 6 minutes of attacks is not even remotely worth it in my opinion. So 10 minutes limited to two uses, and being stuck with a particular set of boots, is top-build material, but 6 minutes divisible three ways with any boots you want is 'not even remotely worth it' / 'full abandon ship'. Check. Or are we cherry-picking one example, and ignoring the more obvious uses? In an earlier thread you said losing 2.5 was a fair trade off for the boots slot, so I assume the 90 second difference remaining is the difference between top build and uselessness/'abandon ship' in your estimation. At this point you're so all over the place I don't see why I should lend any weight to your opinion. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is because you really don't understand the things we factor into balancing decisions, though it certainly appears to be more about you campaigning to undo a nerf you don't like without any regard for server balance, and throwing every rationale you think might have a chance at it, up to and including the kitchen sink. I'll link you the balancing post I promised this weekend and still haven't gotten to. Funky
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Post by FunkySwerve on Dec 17, 2020 16:48:16 GMT
... getting a pair of weapons that you actually need cause trade is 8 people half of which have an inside as to what is “Going” to be good and won’t trade them unless it’s ridiculously favorable to them. curious who these 4 people are So am I, because I post decisions like these when we make them, precisely to avoid the possibility of / appearance of insider trading. See, e.g., this thread. Funky
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Post by Pulpo on Dec 17, 2020 16:59:29 GMT
curious who these 4 people are So am I, because I post decisions like these when we make them, precisely to avoid the possibility of / appearance of insider trading. See, e.g., this thread. Funky My statement is probably exceedingly unfair. God knows the team completes the same function ( Albeit on a different level ) of a Blizzard with reference to game balancing and development FOR FREE. This isnt new, this is the life of a gamer who is emotionally invested in a game that is a fantastic distraction from how shitty life can feel/be. I know the team will do what its always done, trudge ahead and do their best. The time investment is daunting but I suppose the aim is to enjoy it while your investing.
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Post by KnightErrant on Dec 17, 2020 17:27:56 GMT
... getting a pair of weapons that you actually need cause trade is 8 people half of which have an inside as to what is “Going” to be good and won’t trade them unless it’s ridiculously favorable to them. curious who these 4 people are One of the, if not the hardest, part of being a staff member is knowing what's coming down the pipe before anyone else and not to use that knowledge for gain/profit. One Example: I knew about the Wrap nerf for awhile, I still took them first in loot splits and refused to trade them for generous offers because I knew they were getting nerfed...even though it caused at least one person to basically call me a dick for not trading them a set when they knew I had lots of them. I've actually refused some other trades in the last month or so because I knew other changes were coming and I didn't want them to think I fleeced them after they were released. There's a reason there are so few staff members, the ability to use insider info for gain can be hard to overcome for most. Especially when you know the other player is upset with you for not doing a deal and you can't tell them, as much as you would love to, "keep that it's about to more valuable" If anyone thinks they got taken advantage of by someone with inside info not released to the public in a trade you should contact Funky directly. KE.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Dec 17, 2020 17:32:49 GMT
So am I, because I post decisions like these when we make them, precisely to avoid the possibility of / appearance of insider trading. See, e.g., this thread. Funky My statement is probably exceedingly unfair. God knows the team completes the same function ( Albeit on a different level ) of a Blizzard with reference to game balancing and development FOR FREE. This isnt new, this is the life of a gamer who is emotionally invested in a game that is a fantastic distraction from how shitty life can feel/be. I know the team will do what its always done, trudge ahead and do their best. The time investment is daunting but I suppose the aim is to enjoy it while your investing. In all seriousness, if you or anyone ever suspects insider trading or other abuse of DM powers, please pm me directly. We take it quite seriously, and Werehound did happen, so it's not impossible. Funky
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 17:33:31 GMT
I think its bad for the community to make baseless accusations merely because of bitter feelings over the recent changes. I think all the devs involved are upstanding people and shouldn't be dragged through the mud because of someone's bad day.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Dec 17, 2020 17:33:58 GMT
If anyone thinks they got taken advantage of by someone with inside info not released to the public in a trade you should contact Funky directly. KE. Lol, one step ahead of me, KE. Well said. Funky
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Post by FunkySwerve on Dec 17, 2020 17:35:07 GMT
I think its bad for the community to make baseless accusations merely because of bitter feelings over the recent changes. I think all the devs involved are upstanding people and shouldn't be dragged through the mud because of someone's bad day. I'm going to try to address some of the 'feelsbadman' stuff in my post. We don't like doing nerfs, and avoid them where possible, but sometimes it isn't. Funky
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