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Post by FunkySwerve on Sept 27, 2006 13:37:14 GMT
From what I have read, the only symbol they had a problem with was the ~ , and that was resolved as far as I know. Actually there are a host of symbols with issues, but they should all be dealt with. † I'm not sure about, but is probably ok. Even so, I'd recommend going without it. Funky
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Post by gruntgruntson on Sept 27, 2006 13:48:58 GMT
It does look as though the Eternal Order will have two almost seperate sects; 1) The knowledge-gathering, friendly, item-sharing, n00b-friendly sect. 2) Hardcore Sect. This should not be a problem so long as we all respect the HardCore Sect. Don't go rushing off to rescue them, or go loot-running to find stuff for them. They are Guild, but they are also Hardcore 8o) versengeteriks makes some good points: we should have a Guild Charter, stating our aims and regulations etc. Doesn't have to be anything longwinded, or overly complex. Maybe put together some n00b-paks (Bag of holding containing 40 heal potions, 10 raise dead, 10 ressurect, 10 tp stones, boots of speed, some useful stuff - not quest-items like hero stone or Unique drops. Shop-bought, for the main, i suggest.). I don;t think class restrictions are worth enforcing. Charging for guides can be a good idea. Doesn't have to be extortionate, but a little "thank you". Just my 2c.
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Post by phalthallus on Sept 27, 2006 14:05:06 GMT
Well, if I am allowed into the guild as DragonLance suggested, here are some of my feelings on these matters: Few thoughts, do we want the following? A mark against our name {E†O}? I like it A dress code? if so what? - This could be very cool. Everyone use dye packs to wear the same color. Craft to have the same styles possibly as well. Guild heraldry, crest, symbols? - Again, I like this idea as well Alignment restrictions? (if we have rules are we gonna alow chaotic toons?) - Not a fan of this. But it could make sense, from a RP standpoint. But see the next item... Religeon/god/Pantheon? - I think most fantasy stories have parties made up of people from various backgrounds, so they should be able to have different belief systems Are we gonna steal from the rich to feed the poor?Are we gonna hand out cash and freebies to any new toons? even non members? - I say "YES!". n00bs need help, and they can't join the guild when they are new, due to the $$$ requirements. This would go a long ways toward promoting the guild. And I really like the above suggestion about noob packs. Should we take donations from non guild members? - I would think so. The larger question then becomes can we divvy out nice items gotten from the guild to non-members? Charge for services? - I say no, from a pragmatic standpoint. But, it makes sense for some toons to do this. Rogues come to mind first of all. Disarm a trap/open a lock? Get an item from the chest. Set ourselves up as area guides, or scouts? - Yes, I like this idea. Should we always take harper as a class for every toon? or rdd or cleric or....? Again, I don't like restricting classes Buy and sell on the trade chests as a guild? Assuming you mean in the Wyrm? I don't see why we couldn't use these. But it would be cool to have another in the guild house. Have a favoured enemy? Yes! Canadians! Just kidding. Bad joke from an old post of mine. This would restrict classes again, to HS or Ranger. But, if we do make a decision to do that, this would be a cool addition to it. These are just my thoughts and 2c. I do think we need a charter/set of guidelines, and this is going to go a long way towards setting that up. Good work!
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Post by dragonlance007 on Sept 27, 2006 14:26:03 GMT
This is my answers from Trix's post (see bottem of page 3)
Few thoughts, do we want the following?
A mark against our name {E†O}?
I would love that to be our mark but Funky suggests leaving the † out unfortunately *sigh*. So back to the drawing board for the mark I say. Because I think it is important, having "The Eternal Order" at the end of each character name is a little too long for my taste. Lets get our thinking caps on and try to figure out an alternative to {E†O}.
A dress code? if so what?
I am BIG on character customization, so I would not suggest this. We could make a Guild uniform, or have guild colors that we would wear at certian times, but not somthing mandatory.
Guild heraldry, crest, symbols? Sure, fan of this.
Alignment restrictions? (if we have rules are we gonna alow chaotic toons?)
I don't think alignment restrictions are a good idea at all. Maybe if we were on a hardcore RP server, but not here.
Religeon/god/Pantheon?
Nothing mandatory IMO.
Are we gonna steal from the rich to feed the poor? Are we gonna hand out cash and freebies to any new toons? even non members?
I would say that it is up to you if you want to give YOUR personal items to non guild members but not the guilds items. Giving gold shouldn't be a big deal. Thats really all someone needs to get started easily on HG anyway.
Should we take donations from non guild members?
Sure!
Charge for services?
I am a big fan of this. If the guild has an uber rogue and some1 needs a chest unlocked, then charge them! Or any other service that would make one of us really go out of our way to help out some1 that is not a lowbie/noob to NWN etc.
Set ourselves up as area guides, or scouts?
I like this too. If you want to advertise yourself as a guild for people then I say go for it. We should think more about this.
Should we always take harper as a class for every toon? or rdd or cleric or....?
Again, class/character appearance restrictions should NOT be mandatory IMO.
Buy and sell on the trade chests as a guild?
Not a bad idea. Pool our gold together to buy nice/hard to find items from the aution/priced item market chests...
Thats my take on the post by Trix. Great questions Trix lets keep this up and continue the brainstorming until CEP 2.0 comes out and its time to finalize.
-DragonLance_007
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Post by dragonlance007 on Sept 27, 2006 15:00:10 GMT
It does look as though the Eternal Order will have two almost seperate sects; 1) The knowledge-gathering, friendly, item-sharing, n00b-friendly sect. 2) Hardcore Sect. Yup thats correct. We will definately have 2 very different (but both VERY fun IMO) sects of the guild. Basicly it gives us more options of play and creates a center for Hardcore characters to meet at scheduled times and go adventuring. I will making full use of both sides of the guild ;D This is why I love the idea of this guild. Options, options, OPTIONS! And that is also why I am not really a fan of dress codes, character/class/alignment restrictions. I want to promote customization of you character and not have a lot of RP type restrictions. This is the greatest ACTION PW of all time, right? Not the greatest RP server. If you want that go to Layonara But as you said we should respect the wishes of whoever is playing a hardcore toon and let them play hardcore. No rushing to their side or "accidentally" droping a bag of goodies for them with one of your non HC toons. Anyone really trying to play HC wouldn't want the help anyway -DragonLance-007
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Post by phalthallus on Sept 27, 2006 15:12:18 GMT
Looks like most everyone (so far) is in agreement about what the guild should be about (helping others, not restricting character choices, sharing loot/gold within the guild). So it's very nice to see that everyone has the same ideas in mind.
And I agree with your 2nd post above DL, that this IS the greatest action server of all time, and we should be all about options. We'll wait for the others to weigh in, and then someone can start working on the charter, and we'll go from there.
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Post by bkelowna on Sept 27, 2006 15:57:27 GMT
For me it's about diverse team questing and helping each other advance our toons. I'm hoping for diversity within the guild that enables all to acheive more. Members should be able to suggest quests or request help with their needs so that collectively we can form ways to meet as many of the quests/requests as possible.
I'm all for everything that's for the greater good.
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Post by Valthonis The Exile on Sept 27, 2006 17:25:06 GMT
I am in agreement with my brother (DragonLance_007). I have no problem with inviting a person who has a character in one guild and wants another character to be in ours. As long as there is never a conflict of interest. As this is my brother and I's first guild to start up we will be filling in all the blanks as to the questions asked in the above post. I am not sure what questions the DM will ask us as to the guild hall decore, or a crest. What I have read is we need a guild name and them only. I would asssume that the specifics can and will be determined after the guild is created. I my opinion I would like to keep the guild open to a wide range of characters. Having a certain color that must be on the toon or a certain cloak is a neat idea(as long as CEP 2.0 has better cloaks ..lol). I will think more about that. I dont really wanna restrict our guild to a certain alignment or class. I envision having guild parties with all the major classes represented to make a "well rounded party". This guild is forming around people who want to help each other and the server. I dont really see this guild having a certain deity, but more a common goal....friendship, cooperation, and relying on one another for support. Member should be able to create their character however they wish, as long as that character is loyal to this guild.
PS- We will need chacters of all alignments and classes to take full advantage of what items we will find on this server.
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Post by phalthallus on Sept 27, 2006 18:31:18 GMT
Question - Do you guys (DL and Valthonis) want to allow people to sign up existing toons for this guild? Or are you going to only accept "new" toons? Just curious. Either way, we should take stock of what character types we will have, so that anyone creating a new toon can take that into account when doing so. For example, if we already have 5 Halfling Death's but no caster's, someone might want to do that. Or if we have 7 casters but no tanks, then that should be addressed. Personally my only toon is an almost-immo Staffmaster who hates to be disspelled (man I can't wait for a Mord's ring...). Characters I hope to start would include (in no particular order): Cleric (possibly Hard-Core, possibly not, possibly one of each - I love the class Paladin (Hard-Core) Monk - defensive tank Ranger - melee-heavy based on Evey's post Bard Halfling Death (isn't it required that everyone make one of these?) I still want to make a good Palemaster, but have yet to figure out how to do so, so he's probably last on my list of to-do's.
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Post by dragonlance007 on Sept 27, 2006 18:51:27 GMT
Question - Do you guys (DL and Valthonis) want to allow people to sign up existing toons for this guild? Or are you going to only accept "new" toons? Just curious. Either way, we should take stock of what character types we will have, so that anyone creating a new toon can take that into account when doing so. For example, if we already have 5 Halfling Death's but no caster's, someone might want to do that. Or if we have 7 casters but no tanks, then that should be addressed. I have no problem with everyone using characters that they already have made, as guild characters. As long as they let me know that perticular toon is now dedicated to this guild. I will keep a roster of everyone's login name and the characters they have deticated to the guild. And every new character made that is going to be a guild character should have our guild mark at the end of there character name. Now all we need to do is figure out a guild mark lol. I really wish {E†O} could have worked out but, alas, I guess it was not meant to be. We need a guild mark with out the use of ALT codes. Something like {E-O} would work, but I am open to anything. My brother is the more artistic one, maybe he can come up with a better alternitive. That is a good idea Phalthallus, we should all list the build ideas we are planning to make when the guild is done. Characters I plan on making new after the guild is finalized: Halfling Death (again, with Tiefling this time and going for %50 conceal instead of ESF traps and search) Paladin CoT (hardcore) Let the smiting begin. † Bard (got to use my pixie subrace for something lol) Dracolich Disciple (STR melee toon with good AC and crit immune, plus nice ele immunities and resistance) Pale MasterThats all for now. More to come I am sure. -DragonLance_007
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Post by dgcook on Sept 27, 2006 19:13:15 GMT
I have a lvl 60 halfling death named Akira and a lvl 59 bard names Kira.Also have a lvl 57 Wm named Uber wm which are the guys i want in the guild. My son plays on same account but does not want to be in the guild all his guys go by uber except uber wm. I am going to be making a dexer wm in the future and thinking about doing a wiz which i have never played a spellcaster so that should beinteresting. Talk to you guys later
dgcook
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Post by flynn01 on Sept 27, 2006 19:31:03 GMT
I'm an outsider as of yet but I'm considering joining.
What do I do?
With regards to common color, crafting big floppy hats, etc. Most subraces won't let it show.
Do guilds have a common guild chest that shows when someone has taken stuff out? I wouldn't mind donating some immunity rings for guildmembers about to embark on the high runs as long as we knew who was accountable.
I have two new character ideas I was set on creating. I would create one or both dedicated to this guild if we have a standard name convention. I don't think dashes would work either; might interfere with moderation and scripts. What about {EtO}?
Let me know.
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Post by Valthonis The Exile on Sept 27, 2006 20:02:43 GMT
Thanks for showing interest flynn01, all u need to do is find either me or my brother (DragonLance_007) in game and provide us with the 40 million membership fee.
I dont believe there will be a log on the guild chests... so members can loan items to other memebers on a case by case basis. I will post more news as i get it.
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Post by Valthonis The Exile on Sept 27, 2006 20:09:39 GMT
My brother and I have been throwin around ideas for our guild symbol. Since Funky doesnt recommend we use the ALT code † in our symbol I will take his advice. We dont want to muddle the the symbol with a lot of <<{{||}}>> ....that stuff. We have decided that just taking the † out of the symbol is clean and kind of a guild standard on alot of servers ...so as of now we like {EO} as our symbol. After the characters name there should ONLY be 1 space between the name and the symbol so that all of our names look the same. example: Blyxx {EO}
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Post by flynn01 on Sept 27, 2006 20:30:07 GMT
If you have the necessary start up fee (even returning gold to the original contributers) what are the dues going toward? I have no problem doing a few more farm runs to raise the cash , I'm just curious. not {EtO}? It would keep the original middle-cross flavor you were going for.
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