Thaco: Fighter(50), Harper (5), Weapon Master (5)

[omino23]

Thac0 is an older D&D term for "to hit armor class zero", it is also the name of one of the main characters of a popular webcomic about goblins. I wanted to use goblin but found them too scary looking and also didn't have the stats I needed. Kobolds are also a free to use subbie which means that anyone can pick it up. This build can also be improved upon with other subbies and perhaps I will update when I have worked it out more.

Updated and play tested ;D

STR: 8 (-2) 6
DEX: 18 (+2) 20
CON: 14
WIS: 10
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Humanoid - Kobold: (Quick to Master, Darkvision)
01: Fighter(1): Toughness, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Proficiency Exotic
02: Fighter(2): Weapon Focus: Kukri
03: Fighter(3): Knockdown
04: Fighter(4): DEX+1, Dodge, (DEX=21)
05: Fighter(5)
06: Fighter(6): Iron Will, Mobility
07: Fighter(7)
08: Fighter(8): DEX+1, Expertise, (DEX=22)
09: Fighter(9): Improved Critical: Kukri
10: Fighter(10): Spring Attack
11: Fighter(11)
12: Fighter(12): DEX+1, Great Fortitude, Whirlwind Attack, (DEX=23)
13: Fighter(13)
14: Fighter(14): Disarm
15: Fighter(15): Blind Fight
16: Weapon Master(1): DEX+1, Weapon of Choice: Kukri, (DEX=24)
17: Weapon Master(2)
18: Weapon Master(3): Alertness
19: Weapon Master(4)
20: Weapon Master(5): DEX+1, (DEX=25)
21: Harper Scout(1): Great Dexterity I, Great Dexterity II, (DEX=27)
22: Harper Scout(2)
23: Harper Scout(3)
24: Harper Scout(4): DEX+1, Great Dexterity III, (DEX=29)
25: Fighter(16): Epic Weapon Focus: Kukri
26: Fighter(17)
27: Fighter(18): Great Dexterity IV, Armor Skin, (DEX=30)
28: Fighter(19): DEX+1, (DEX=31)
29: Fighter(20): Epic Prowess
30: Fighter(21): Great Dexterity V, (DEX=32)
31: Fighter(22): Improved Knockdown
32: Fighter(23): DEX+1, (DEX=33)
33: Fighter(24): Great Dexterity VI, Improved Parry, (DEX=34)
34: Fighter(25)
35: Fighter(26): Improved Expertise
36: Fighter(27): DEX+1, Great Dexterity VII, (DEX=36)
37: Fighter(28): Improved Disarm
38: Fighter(29)
39: Harper Scout(5): Great Dexterity VIII, Great Dexterity IX, (DEX=38)
40: Fighter(30): DEX+1, Improved Whirlwind Attack, (DEX=39)


LL Skills:
LL Kukri
LL Will
LL Fort
Great Dex X
(+3 others could use some suggestions, might have to take additional Will saving throw feat. I will mull this over as I lvl up)

Discipline 43(41), Intimidate 4(3), Lore 37(44), Parry 43(61), Persuade 8(7), Pick Pocket 30(44), Search 4(6), Tumble 40(54)



Hitpoints: 500
Skillpoints: 225
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 24/18/33
Saving Throw bonuses: Mind Effects: +2, Traps: +2
BAB: 30
AB (max, naked): 49 (melee), 45 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 34/37

Still a little rough around the edges but hoping to make the most of the changes to fighter abilities. Did immo run with little fuss in a really good party, and was able to knockdown and disarm despite small size which im sure is temporary till the greater versions kick in.

[dapperdave]

omino23 said:

I hope I am correct in my assumption that at lvl 42 he will get epic dodge?

No, you need to get 30 fighter levels by lvl 40

[Lythe Featherblade]

Thac0 dual wielded though...

Easy enough to drop 2 WM levels for epic dodge, with a 12-20 range you'll crit a fair bit, it's the bump from x2 to x3 that's more important for you

[omino23]

epic dodge is looking really tempting. two more fighter lvls should not hurt too much. can anyone suggest how I might be able to fit dev crit in here some how? I was also curious if anyone could share some of their experiences with using the new "greater" disarm, knockdown, and parry fighter abilities. Will thaco qualify to get those and will thaco be able to use them with any success?

[stonewarrior]

I have a Fighter with 48 total levels and I have yet to see the greater KD or Greater Disarm work in hell...though in fairness I have not tried in a couple of levels. I tend to use the Improved KD and Improved Disarm which work very well at times.

[omino23]

yeah I was really hoping that the Greater KD, disarm etc would be a nice replacement. Since I Thaco will be a small size character and will be using a tiny wep I have a feeling that the chances of him disarming a pit fiend with a great sword and going to be low. I was hoping that the greater abilities would give him a little edge on that. I am going to work this out again in excel and drop two wm lvls for fighter so I get epic dodge.

[stonewarrior]

Your odds of getting it to work would go up quite a bit with more Fighter levels as these feats are based on your Fighter levels.

[lala]

A classic line by Thac0 regarding str in the good ol' days

goblinscomic.com/d/20051112.html

If your going to do Thac0 might want to consider the goblin from this online comic, its a bit of a classic.
I believe he is a Monk, but doing an alternative could be fun.

Cheers
lala

[omino23]

"it is also the name of one of the main characters of a popular webcomic about goblins"

lol

[dapperdave]

omino23 said:

can anyone suggest how I might be able to fit dev crit in here some how?

You can't. Dev crit needs 25 str

Dave

[omino23]

yeah I was looking at this wondering why I could not take it, cleave and power attack etc need 13 str which I can fit but 25 str is a different build. I have remade my first immo on the server into this guy with 5 hs and 5 wm and so far it worked great. I will update the build with how I tweaked it. Actually ends up with a free feat in the process

[wnxhalfwingseen]

Greater parry is amazing as ive used it it allowed my horrible build to actually tank well

greater kd never worked well for me til i got to a point around lvl 45 ( pure fighter ) and i used it kded every single thing ( lucky rolls i guess ) and my party was amazed

greater disarm never seen work but once and the ab drop seems very useful

[omino23]

ok so I am at somewhere around lvl 46 now, I am noticing that I do miss the extra crit range on the kukri a little but he still crits enough that I am not too worried about it. In an above average/really good party at lvl 40 he was tanking stuff on db and the desert (then I lvled him up like 3 LL right after). So far with LL feats I have grabbed the Dex 10 and also LL Kukri. I still have five other feats out there. So far I am only worried about his will save but will take LL Will next and see where he is at and if worse comes to worse take Epic Will. Any suggestions on what I could spend the other LL feats on:

Taken:
LL Kukri
Great dex X

Possible other LL feats:
LL Will
LL Fort
(3 open spots)