Post by ilovedietpepsi on Oct 26, 2007 10:37:32 GMT
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I was lucky enough to get my hands on this beautiful subby and a pure ranger was the first thing came to mind.
Basic concepts came from the Elven Warder build.
Base Race : Human
Subrace : Erinyes (Beyond UltraRare Subrace)
Subrace Benefits: +6 dex, +2 con, +4 wis, -2 cha
Rapid shot, Point Blank Shot, Weapon Focus : Longbow, Epic Weapon focus: Longbow, Walk on quicksand.
Race Pro & Con:
Pro:
Call shot will work with range eventually so with the feats from erinyes you can enjoy that benefit of high ab using bows right away without investing ANYTHING.
High stats bonus provides alot of flexibility. You can take 2 points off dex and add more to intelligence to get Armor craft or Weapon craft skills.
Not to mention no need to wear levitation rings
Con:
As some mentioned, can't get epic dodge like Stargazer does, which is one of quite useful defensive feats for a dex tank.
I was initially thinking about using Halfling (since Erinyes change appearance to medium) which gets me +2 to dex , save me 2 feats, while the bonus to hide (for conceal) , Lucky (+1 to all saves) and misc racial bonuses can be quite helpful as well.
But unfortunately there are 2 feats I want to take at level 1, and halfling gets 1 feat at level 1 only.
So reluctantly i decided to go with Human.
Starting stats (before and after racial modifier)
Strength 8
Dexterity 16 (22) --- or starting with 15 (21)
con 14 (16)
Wisdom 16 (20)
int 12 --- 14 if starting with 1 less dex
cha 8 (6)
All stats goes to dex
Skill :
Hide (for conceal) , Discipline, Animal Empathy, Parry, Listen
Tumble (dont put any point and max after u take LSA Tumble)
if starting with 14 int then get either craft weapon or craft armor
Feats:
Pre-Epic
1 : Favored Enemy, Strong Soul, Blooded
3 : Weapon Finesse
5 : Favored Enemy
6 : Weapon Focus (Mace) - Is this a good choice?
9 : Improved Critical (Mace)
10 : Favored Enemy
12 : Toughness
15 : Blind Fight, Favored Enemy
18 : Call Shot
20: Favored Enemy
Epic:
21: Armor Skin
23: Epic Weapon Focus
24: Great Dex 1
25: Favored Enemy
26: Favored Enemy
27: Great Dex 2
29: Favored Enemy
30: Great Dex 3, Favored Enemy
32: Bane of Enemies
33: Great Dex 4
35: Epic Prowess, Blinding Speed
36: Iron Will
38: Favored Enemy (damn dont know what to pick lol)
39: Epic Skill Focus : Hide
40: Favored Enemy
Legendary Levels:
LSA Tumble
Hardened Soul
Legendary Will
Legendary Weapon Focus
Great Dex x 2 (or Great Wisdom x 2 for the eventual possibility of getting +1 to dc with 3x demi and wisdom arti)
Epic Reflex for garantee never fail dragon breathe save unless roll a 1 or Legendary Skill Focus Hide for less dependent on gears and/or buff. (those started with odd dex should take Great Dex)
stats at 40
str 8
dex 36
con 16
int 12
Wis 20
cha 6
Saves at 40 Naked (with gears)
fortitude 26 (52)
refex 29 (55)
Will 24 (50)
stats at 60 should be
str 8
dex 48 (or 46 if you get 2 more wisdom)
con 20 (from ranger boost)
int 12
wis 20 (or 22 if you get 2 more wisdom)
cha 6
Saves with gears
fort 52 + 5 + 2(from con stats boost) +5 = 64
refl 55 + 6 + 5 = 66 (70 with epic reflex)
Will 50 + 5 + 5 + 7 = 67
Favored Enemies, any suggestions on what to take?
Outsider, Abberation, Reptalian Humanoid, Undead, Dragon, Constructs these are standards,
What about other races, any suggestions would be appreciated.
Also it seems like the feats may not be optimized..
I was lucky enough to get my hands on this beautiful subby and a pure ranger was the first thing came to mind.
Basic concepts came from the Elven Warder build.
Base Race : Human
Subrace : Erinyes (Beyond UltraRare Subrace)
Subrace Benefits: +6 dex, +2 con, +4 wis, -2 cha
Rapid shot, Point Blank Shot, Weapon Focus : Longbow, Epic Weapon focus: Longbow, Walk on quicksand.
Race Pro & Con:
Pro:
Call shot will work with range eventually so with the feats from erinyes you can enjoy that benefit of high ab using bows right away without investing ANYTHING.
High stats bonus provides alot of flexibility. You can take 2 points off dex and add more to intelligence to get Armor craft or Weapon craft skills.
Not to mention no need to wear levitation rings
Con:
As some mentioned, can't get epic dodge like Stargazer does, which is one of quite useful defensive feats for a dex tank.
I was initially thinking about using Halfling (since Erinyes change appearance to medium) which gets me +2 to dex , save me 2 feats, while the bonus to hide (for conceal) , Lucky (+1 to all saves) and misc racial bonuses can be quite helpful as well.
But unfortunately there are 2 feats I want to take at level 1, and halfling gets 1 feat at level 1 only.
So reluctantly i decided to go with Human.
Starting stats (before and after racial modifier)
Strength 8
Dexterity 16 (22) --- or starting with 15 (21)
con 14 (16)
Wisdom 16 (20)
int 12 --- 14 if starting with 1 less dex
cha 8 (6)
All stats goes to dex
Skill :
Hide (for conceal) , Discipline, Animal Empathy, Parry, Listen
Tumble (dont put any point and max after u take LSA Tumble)
if starting with 14 int then get either craft weapon or craft armor
Feats:
Pre-Epic
1 : Favored Enemy, Strong Soul, Blooded
3 : Weapon Finesse
5 : Favored Enemy
6 : Weapon Focus (Mace) - Is this a good choice?
9 : Improved Critical (Mace)
10 : Favored Enemy
12 : Toughness
15 : Blind Fight, Favored Enemy
18 : Call Shot
20: Favored Enemy
Epic:
21: Armor Skin
23: Epic Weapon Focus
24: Great Dex 1
25: Favored Enemy
26: Favored Enemy
27: Great Dex 2
29: Favored Enemy
30: Great Dex 3, Favored Enemy
32: Bane of Enemies
33: Great Dex 4
35: Epic Prowess, Blinding Speed
36: Iron Will
38: Favored Enemy (damn dont know what to pick lol)
39: Epic Skill Focus : Hide
40: Favored Enemy
Legendary Levels:
LSA Tumble
Hardened Soul
Legendary Will
Legendary Weapon Focus
Great Dex x 2 (or Great Wisdom x 2 for the eventual possibility of getting +1 to dc with 3x demi and wisdom arti)
Epic Reflex for garantee never fail dragon breathe save unless roll a 1 or Legendary Skill Focus Hide for less dependent on gears and/or buff. (those started with odd dex should take Great Dex)
stats at 40
str 8
dex 36
con 16
int 12
Wis 20
cha 6
Saves at 40 Naked (with gears)
fortitude 26 (52)
refex 29 (55)
Will 24 (50)
stats at 60 should be
str 8
dex 48 (or 46 if you get 2 more wisdom)
con 20 (from ranger boost)
int 12
wis 20 (or 22 if you get 2 more wisdom)
cha 6
Saves with gears
fort 52 + 5 + 2(from con stats boost) +5 = 64
refl 55 + 6 + 5 = 66 (70 with epic reflex)
Will 50 + 5 + 5 + 7 = 67
Favored Enemies, any suggestions on what to take?
Outsider, Abberation, Reptalian Humanoid, Undead, Dragon, Constructs these are standards,
What about other races, any suggestions would be appreciated.
Also it seems like the feats may not be optimized..