Exteme Fighter (30 fighter/7 wm/3 rogue)

[shadowedskull]

I am currently working on this build. It turned out really well in the testing chamber so I decided to post this here before I continue this build any further.

Race: Human
Subrace: Minotaur
(Stat/Base/Subrace Modification/At 40/At 60)
Str: 16/20/36/49
Dex: 15/13/13/13
Con: 14/14/14/14
Wis: 8/10/10/10
Int: 14/14/14/14
Cha: 8/4/4/4

Pre and Post Epic Feats (IN ORDER)
Luck of Heroes, Weapon Focus, Strong Soul, Dodge, Expertise, Mobility, Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack, Weapon of Choice, Improved Critical, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes, Weapon Specialization, Blind Fight, Toughness, Knockdown, Epic Will, Epic Weapon Focus, Epic Weapon Specialization, Great Strength 1, Armor Skin, Great Strength 2, Epic Prowess, Great Strength 3, Disarm, Great Strength 4, Improved Disarm, Improved Knockdown, Great Strength 5, Epic Toughness 1, Great Strength 6, Epic Toughness 2

Legendary Feats (IN ORDER)
Legendary Weapon Focus, Legendary Will, Legendary Reflex, Epic Fortitude, Great Strength 7, Great Strength 8, Legendary Luck of Heroes

Skills at 40
Disable Trap: 43
Discipline: 42
Intimidate: 4
Lore: 43
Open Lock: 43
Search: 14
Tumble: 40

Saves at 40/60
Fortitude: 24+5+4+20+3=56 Fortitude
Reflex: 23+5+7+20+3=58 Reflex
Will: 24++5+7+20+3=59 Will

Please correct my calculations if there are any problems with it.

- Pros

• Excellent AB at 40 (44)
  
• Ability to wield a large weapon in one hand and shield in the other
  
• Gets a lot of feats that will help later on and possibly even at the beginning of the build

- Cons

• Low saves (I think ) which eventually hit the 50s

Your base unarmed attack bonus is 44 at 40 and with the weapon I chose (which was greatsword) it is 48 at 40 with the basic greatsword (no + on it whatsoever)!

~ shadowedskull

[shadowedskull]

No comments whatsoever?

- shadowedskull

[kaldair]

You'll need to post your saves before I can comment - and also if you want this build to visit the Hells. Otherwise from what you've posted it looks fine. Doesn't hurt to post what you see as the Pros and Cons of the build in order to generate comment thereon ...

Kaldair

[stonewarrior]

You might consider taking a different Feat at 60 so that you do not end up with an uneven Strength total. Otherwise you are wasting the feat. You could take a Great Dexterity instead which would even out your Dexterity score and give you a +1 to your reflex save.

Also, instead of the two Epic Toughness feats take Epci Reflexes (or is it Epic Prowess) and turn them into Strength ability points. Fighters with more than 21 levels can exchange bonus feats (either Epic Reflexes or Epic Prowess) for ability points (either Strength or Dexterity). Check the Class Ability folder or the Fighter ability book.

Not sure what the saves are but overall it should do well. Though as a Strength tank it might become rather gear dependent in Legenday areas. Also, I would put at least 34 points in UMD to allow you to use scrolls and wands. It will come in handy as your progress. I am not sure that the points in Open Lock and Disble Trap will be of much use in Legendary areas. Most the DC's are pretty high and I suspect you will struggle to hit them. I would consider putting points in Concentration and / or Heal instead.

Peace, John.

[starlandra]

Epic Toughness 1
Epic Toughness 2
Strong Soul

all seem unnecesary... prob not alot of comments cause this is a pretty standered build. I would prob change it to 22fighter 16wm 2rogue for 2 more ab. Still always a good build for str tanks,

[mescalino]

I agree with previous posters. Will you take him to hellor not will make quite a difference and i'dd love to see his saves.
I would also change to less fighter and more WM. I have made a simular build with the lizard subrace 10 fight/2 rogue/28 WM. Specialized in scimitar which has a AB around 68 at lvl 59 if i remember correct (no enhancment but +12str from item). The only problem with that build are his saves should have invested more in saves so i can't take him to hell still he has over 1000hp and does great damage with keen casted 55% crit chance.

I think if you take that build ad a bit more fighter lvls for saves feats you will have a great tank. Downside to wm builds i have allways found that it takes a lot of feats to qualify.

In general i have allways found the fighter class good to mix and less as a main class.