Post by whodat1 on Aug 11, 2006 9:30:44 GMT
The term "me barsh gud" has been thrown around a lot these days, but this build really focuses on that goal.
Based on the info so far, hoping this builds name can later be changed to "Bane of the 9 Hells". (Note: NOT a cue to add mobs with spears to area).
Race: Halfling
Subrace: Lycan (Ultra Rare Secret)
Bonus stuff: Dodge, Improved Initiative, +4 Regen, 25% Vulnerability (Piercing)
Starting Abilities:
Str 8
Dex 20 (24 With Subrace)
Con 14 (16 with Subrace)
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 8 (6 with Subrace)
1. Fighter - WF: Rapier, Weapon Finesse
2. Fighter - Mobility
3. Fighter - Expertise
4. Fighter - Dex +1, Spring Attack
5. Fighter
6. Fighter - Whirlwind Attack, WS: Rapier
7. Fighter
8. Fighter - Dex +1, Improved Critical: Rapier (4 to intimidate)
9. WM - Weapon of Choice: Rapier, Toughness
10. WM
11. WM
12. WM - Dex +1, Improved Expertise
13. WM
14. WM
15. WM - Iron Will
16. WM - +1 Dex
17. WM
18. WM - Lightning Reflexes
19. Fighter
20. Fighter - +1 Dex, Blind Fight, (10 to hide, 8 to ms, 5 to tumble, dump concentration, hold discipline at 15)
21. Shadow Dancer - Great Dex I (dump tumble, rest into hide)
22. WM
23. WM
24. WM - Dex +1, Great Dex II, Epic WF: Rapier
25. WM
26. WM
27. WM - Great Dex III, Armor Skin
28. WM - Dex +1
29. WM
30. WM - Great Dex IV, Epic Prowess
31. WM
32. WM - Dex +1
33. WM - Great Dex V, Improved Whirlwind Attack
34. WM
35. WM
36. WM - Dex +1, Great Dex VI, Superior Initiative
37. Shadow Dancer (Dump points into tumble, get hide to 35)
38. WM - Great Dex VII
39. WM
40. WM - Dex +1, Epic Toughness I (Discipline)
Abilities Ending:
Str 8
Dex 41
Con 16
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 6
Naked AC: 35
Base Attack: 30
Unarmed: +46/41/36/31
Rap with max attack: +76/71/66/61
HP: 576
Fortitude: 24
Reflex: 38
Will: 18
Skills @ 40:
Concentration 26, discipline 42, hide 50, move silently 23, tumble 55, 0 left over
LL Progression:
42. Epic Will
45. Epic Fortitude
48. Great Dex VIII
51. Great Dex IX
54. Great Dex X
57. Great Con I
60. Great Con II
All Points to Dex
Notes:
This build is based on the advice given by several people, funky, bald, yue, hiryuu, and others (thanks). Similar to caths stinger build as well, but optimized for lycan and built on the extreme side of dex.
Pros: Highest Dex you can get. Max race+Max roll+all dex points+dex from subrace+all great dex feats. HIPS, evasion, uncanny dodge, super wm AB, high initiative, discipline, tumble.
Cons: Low will, lacking in concentration/spellcraft skills, can't carry a lot, need to cover for piercing vulnerability. Hope you like hitting things, because thats all your doing
Rapiers are great if you have dd/db raps, and a permabuffing keen monkey on another account, but if thats too much of a hassle for you, kukris or handaxe will work out fine.
I decided to get the maximum dex possible, and so with 20 starting I sacrifice other stats for it. If your not looking to top out (realistically you have dex to spare) your other stats could certainly use it.
---- Revision notes
Changed Race to hafling. I chose hafling over elf, since your med size due to the subrace and halfling gives +1 to universal saving throws, which is more useful then the elf racial stuff.
The rebuild changed the following from human (besides stats):
1 more tumble ac, 1 more ab, 1 to fortitude, 2 to reflex, 1 to will. Lost 1 disc, 4 hide, gained 3 move silently, gained 1 tumble, lost 38 extra skill points), lost human bonus feat, took blind fight at 20 instead of 1.
I also got rid of epic reflexes and added great con II, which I agree might be better to have at that point.
Thanks for the advice so far!
Based on the info so far, hoping this builds name can later be changed to "Bane of the 9 Hells". (Note: NOT a cue to add mobs with spears to area).
Race: Halfling
Subrace: Lycan (Ultra Rare Secret)
Bonus stuff: Dodge, Improved Initiative, +4 Regen, 25% Vulnerability (Piercing)
Starting Abilities:
Str 8
Dex 20 (24 With Subrace)
Con 14 (16 with Subrace)
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 8 (6 with Subrace)
1. Fighter - WF: Rapier, Weapon Finesse
2. Fighter - Mobility
3. Fighter - Expertise
4. Fighter - Dex +1, Spring Attack
5. Fighter
6. Fighter - Whirlwind Attack, WS: Rapier
7. Fighter
8. Fighter - Dex +1, Improved Critical: Rapier (4 to intimidate)
9. WM - Weapon of Choice: Rapier, Toughness
10. WM
11. WM
12. WM - Dex +1, Improved Expertise
13. WM
14. WM
15. WM - Iron Will
16. WM - +1 Dex
17. WM
18. WM - Lightning Reflexes
19. Fighter
20. Fighter - +1 Dex, Blind Fight, (10 to hide, 8 to ms, 5 to tumble, dump concentration, hold discipline at 15)
21. Shadow Dancer - Great Dex I (dump tumble, rest into hide)
22. WM
23. WM
24. WM - Dex +1, Great Dex II, Epic WF: Rapier
25. WM
26. WM
27. WM - Great Dex III, Armor Skin
28. WM - Dex +1
29. WM
30. WM - Great Dex IV, Epic Prowess
31. WM
32. WM - Dex +1
33. WM - Great Dex V, Improved Whirlwind Attack
34. WM
35. WM
36. WM - Dex +1, Great Dex VI, Superior Initiative
37. Shadow Dancer (Dump points into tumble, get hide to 35)
38. WM - Great Dex VII
39. WM
40. WM - Dex +1, Epic Toughness I (Discipline)
Abilities Ending:
Str 8
Dex 41
Con 16
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 6
Naked AC: 35
Base Attack: 30
Unarmed: +46/41/36/31
Rap with max attack: +76/71/66/61
HP: 576
Fortitude: 24
Reflex: 38
Will: 18
Skills @ 40:
Concentration 26, discipline 42, hide 50, move silently 23, tumble 55, 0 left over
LL Progression:
42. Epic Will
45. Epic Fortitude
48. Great Dex VIII
51. Great Dex IX
54. Great Dex X
57. Great Con I
60. Great Con II
All Points to Dex
Notes:
This build is based on the advice given by several people, funky, bald, yue, hiryuu, and others (thanks). Similar to caths stinger build as well, but optimized for lycan and built on the extreme side of dex.
Pros: Highest Dex you can get. Max race+Max roll+all dex points+dex from subrace+all great dex feats. HIPS, evasion, uncanny dodge, super wm AB, high initiative, discipline, tumble.
Cons: Low will, lacking in concentration/spellcraft skills, can't carry a lot, need to cover for piercing vulnerability. Hope you like hitting things, because thats all your doing
Rapiers are great if you have dd/db raps, and a permabuffing keen monkey on another account, but if thats too much of a hassle for you, kukris or handaxe will work out fine.
I decided to get the maximum dex possible, and so with 20 starting I sacrifice other stats for it. If your not looking to top out (realistically you have dex to spare) your other stats could certainly use it.
---- Revision notes
Changed Race to hafling. I chose hafling over elf, since your med size due to the subrace and halfling gives +1 to universal saving throws, which is more useful then the elf racial stuff.
The rebuild changed the following from human (besides stats):
1 more tumble ac, 1 more ab, 1 to fortitude, 2 to reflex, 1 to will. Lost 1 disc, 4 hide, gained 3 move silently, gained 1 tumble, lost 38 extra skill points), lost human bonus feat, took blind fight at 20 instead of 1.
I also got rid of epic reflexes and added great con II, which I agree might be better to have at that point.
Thanks for the advice so far!