The Path Undying (30 Cle / 10 WM | Lifethreader)

[Acaos]

This Lifethreader build gets 2 cleric epic spells, 71 AB, and has sufficient strength and dexterity to avoid many (but not all) of the nasty ability checks in the Hells. It can use the Holy Symbol of Lathander for 30% conceal and recieves one extra attack from Divine Power.

Race
Elf (Undying)

Ability	Base	Subrace	Final
STR	14	16	40
DEX	16	16	22
CON	10	14	14
INT	12	14	14
WIS	16	18	20
CHA	8	10	10

Save	Base	Ability	Feats	Epic/LL/Gear	Total
Fort	10	2	13	41	66
Reflex	9	6	6	41	62
Will	10	5	6	41	62

Attack Bonus
16 (BAB)
10 (epic)
21 (strength)
4 (weapon foci)
20 (buffs)
71 (total)

Armor Class
10 (base)
20 (dodge)
26 (+18 full plate)
16 (shield) (can get 19 from Pentavite shield, but must take dex gear off to equip)
16 (deflection)
16 (natural)
2 (armor skin)
6 (tumble)
4 (cleric epic)
116 (total)

Abilities
Dexterity (6 points (can drop up to 4 points for more Str or Con and still hit 30 Dex, but reflex saves will go down to 60))
Strength (14 points)

Skills
63 Heal (max whenever possible)
63 Concentration (max on cleric levels)
33 Discipline (at level 30)
30 Tumble (cross-class)
4 Intimidate (by level 15)
(you will have a few spare points)

Spell Foci
Two of Divination, Enchantment, and Necromancy. Abjuration would be a semi-distant fourth.

Progression
1-15 Cleric (Death/Healing domains)
16-24 Weapon Master (WoC Sickle)
25-29 Cleric
30 Weapon Master
31-40 Cleric

Feats
1 Toughness
1 Dodge, Luck of Heroes, Great Fortitude, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes [Undying]
3 Weapon Focus (sickle)
6 Mobility
9 Expertise
12 Spring Attack
15 Whirlwind Attack
16 Weapon of Choice (sickle) [WM]
18 Spell Focus
20 Superior Weapon Focus [WM]
20 Increased Multiplier [WM]
21 Epic Weapon Focus (sickle)
22 Ki Critical [WM]
24 Greater Spell Focus
27 Great Strength I
30 Great Strength II
33 Great Strength III
33 Great Wisdom I [Cleric]
36 Great Strength IV
36 Great Wisdom II [Cleric]
39 Great Strength V
39 Epic Spell Focus [Cleric]
40 Epic Spell Focus [Tome]
42 Legendary Luck
45 Legendary Fortitude
48 Great Strength VI
51 Great Strength VII
54 Great Strength VIII
57 Great Strength IX
60 Great Strength X

[fragment]

What's the point behind the 30 cleric levels?

I thought you needed 25 cleric levels for the epics, so if you wanted to get them you'd rather go 25/15 or 26/14 so you get the magical damage type and an AB. And since you don't get neg/pos damage anyway, you can as well splash a monk class and go 25/14/1.

Tell me, what do I miss, that justifies losing the mag damage type

[Acaos]

30 cleric levels lets you use the Holy Symbol of Lathander to get some concealment, plus adds another -1 to enemy saves from Battletide.

Acaos

[khaine]

I'm not good (at all, xD) at builds really, but doesn't full plate still allow for +1 dexterity to ac? xD. Out of interest, could you post some lifethreading info for us, to give an idea of what damage/healing your doing, xD.

[kaldair]

Hmmm - Didn't I read in one of your posts that Lifethreading disables conceal from items? 0.o

[sabregirl]

You never want to splash class on a lifethreader build because, while the other damage types aren't useful in a lot of places, splashing reduces your damage multiplier from X3 to X2. Not really something you want to do. 30 levels of cleric give better buffs, UEF battletide, prayer etc. for save lowering and the ability to use one of the two thid torches.

There is one problem on this build . . . no blind fight. I've designed mine with slightly different stats to counter this.

-S

[Acaos]

No, it specifically disables invisibility/sanctuary effects. Losing the conceal from Improved Invisibility is a side effect.

Acaos

[kaldair]

Ahhh - that's good to know on the conceal.

Partied in Malbolge with Baldy's splashed LT last night. He didn't die once - and I attribute much of my staying alive while being pounded on as a flat-footed shifter to be due to his healing LT abilities. I compare that to my poor "pure" Wis (Anarch) LT dieing & fuguing so much & it's really making me reconsider the "pure" route more & more ...

Kaldair

[mistoffoles]

I know this is the archive builds but that dosent mean that they are no longer good builds...
I do have one question ..
could you not go 1-16 cleric and 17-20 WM pre epic gaining 1 fort/will save still get same 16 bab @ 20 and not lose / change the build any?