Post by helbrax on May 1, 2007 15:53:10 GMT
I created this using the Character Creator Excel Spreadsheet, so if there are any errors, don't blame me. ;D. I haven't run it through the test area yet.
Please comment,especially on mistakes. I'm relatively new to higher ground. Please, be gentle.
Fighter(8), Monk(2), Rogue(30)
Humanoid - Kobold, (Quick to Master, Darkvision)
+2 dex, -2 str
Better race choices out there, but I don't have any.
Stat: Start [Race] (Final)
STR: 10 [8] (8)
DEX: 18 [20] (33)
CON: 12 [12] (12)
WIS: 10 [10] (10)
INT: 14 [14] (14)
CHA: 8 [8] (8)
01: Rogue(1): Luck of Heros, Toughness
02: Monk(1): {Cleave, Evasion, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist}
03: Fighter(1): Weapon Finesse, Weapon Proficiency Exotic
04: Fighter(2): DEX+1, Weapon Focus: Kukri, (DEX=21)
05: Fighter(3)
06: Fighter(4): Two-Weapon Fighting, Ambidexterity
07: Rogue(2)
08: Fighter(5): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
09: Fighter(6): Iron Will, Weapon Specialization: Kukri
10: Fighter(7)
11: Rogue(3): {Uncanny Dodge I}
12: Rogue(4): DEX+1, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, (DEX=23)
13: Rogue(5)
14: Rogue(6)
15: Rogue(7): Improved Critical: Kukri
16: Rogue(8): DEX+1, (DEX=24)
17: Monk(2): {Deflect Arrows}
18: Rogue(9): Great Fortitude
19: Rogue(10): Improved Evasion
20: Rogue(11): DEX+1, (DEX=25)
21: Rogue(12): Armor Skin
22: Rogue(13): Crippling Strike
23: Rogue(14)
24: Rogue(15): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, (DEX=27)
25: Rogue(16): Slippery Mind
26: Rogue(17)
27: Rogue(18): Great Dexterity II, (DEX=28)
28: Rogue(19): DEX+1, Defensive Roll, (DEX=29)
29: Rogue(20)
30: Rogue(21): Great Dexterity III, (DEX=30)
31: Rogue(22)
32: Rogue(23): DEX+1, (DEX=31)
33: Rogue(24): Self Concealment I, Self Concealment II
34: Rogue(25)
35: Rogue(26)
36: Rogue(27): DEX+1, Self Concealment III, (DEX=32)
37: Rogue(28)
38: Rogue(29): Self Concealment IV
39: Rogue(30): Self Concealment V
40: Fighter(8): DEX+1, Blind Fight, (DEX=33)
Basically, you'll want to max tumble, hide, umd, discipline, search, disable trap, open lock, cocentration on every non-cross class level you can. The exact skill progression is at the bottom of the post. Following it, I got the following skills:
Concentration 43(44), Disable Trap 41(43), Discipline 43(42), Hide 42(53), Open Lock 42(53), Search 42(44), Spellcraft 20(22), Spot 40(40), Tumble 42(53), UMD 42(41)
Everything Naked: No equips whatsoever
Hitpoints: 356
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 25/21/34
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +4, Traps: +5
BAB: 26
AC: 34[35] (10 + 11(Dex) + 8(Tumble) + 2(Armor Skin) [ + 1(Size Bonus)] * Could be wrong.
Pros:
Good damage against sneak-attack vulnerable critters.
Monk AC Bonus from Wisdom Modifier.
Versatile skill spread.
Self Conceal V.
Decent Saves.
Slippery mind to help with lower Will save.
High UMD for scrolls and such.
Cons:
Low HP.
Crapptacular damage against crit/sneak immune baddies.
No Wisdom Bonus at Character Creation.
Needs good Items to fill the weak spots.
No Epic Dodge, Epic Weapon Focus, etc(pre-LL).
Full skill progression list:
01: Disable Trap(4), Hide(4), Open Lock(4), Search(4), Tumble(4), UMD(4), Save(20),
02: Concentration(5), Discipline(5), Hide(1), Tumble(1), Save(15),
03: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(18),
04: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(21),
05: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(24),
06: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(27),
07: Disable Trap(5), Hide(5), Open Lock(6), Search(6), Tumble(5), UMD(6), Save(5),
08: Concentration(2), Discipline(2), Save(6),
09: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(9),
10: Concentration(1), Save(13),
11: Disable Trap(4), Hide(4), Open Lock(4), Search(4), Tumble(4), UMD(4),
12: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(3),
13: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(6),
14: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(9),
15: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(12),
16: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(15),
17: Concentration(7), Discipline(8), Hide(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), Save(3),
18: Disable Trap(2), Hide(1), Open Lock(2), Search(2), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(2), Save(2),
19: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(5),
20: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(8),
21: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(11),
22: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(14),
23: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(17),
24: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(20),
25: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(23),
26: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(28),
27: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(31),
28: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(36),
29: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(39),
30: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(44),
31: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(47),
32: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(52),
33: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(55),
34: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(60),
35: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(63),
36: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(68),
37: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(71),
38: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(76),
39: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(40), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(41),
40: Concentration(23), Discipline(23),
Please comment,especially on mistakes. I'm relatively new to higher ground. Please, be gentle.
Fighter(8), Monk(2), Rogue(30)
Humanoid - Kobold, (Quick to Master, Darkvision)
+2 dex, -2 str
Better race choices out there, but I don't have any.
Stat: Start [Race] (Final)
STR: 10 [8] (8)
DEX: 18 [20] (33)
CON: 12 [12] (12)
WIS: 10 [10] (10)
INT: 14 [14] (14)
CHA: 8 [8] (8)
01: Rogue(1): Luck of Heros, Toughness
02: Monk(1): {Cleave, Evasion, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist}
03: Fighter(1): Weapon Finesse, Weapon Proficiency Exotic
04: Fighter(2): DEX+1, Weapon Focus: Kukri, (DEX=21)
05: Fighter(3)
06: Fighter(4): Two-Weapon Fighting, Ambidexterity
07: Rogue(2)
08: Fighter(5): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
09: Fighter(6): Iron Will, Weapon Specialization: Kukri
10: Fighter(7)
11: Rogue(3): {Uncanny Dodge I}
12: Rogue(4): DEX+1, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, (DEX=23)
13: Rogue(5)
14: Rogue(6)
15: Rogue(7): Improved Critical: Kukri
16: Rogue(8): DEX+1, (DEX=24)
17: Monk(2): {Deflect Arrows}
18: Rogue(9): Great Fortitude
19: Rogue(10): Improved Evasion
20: Rogue(11): DEX+1, (DEX=25)
21: Rogue(12): Armor Skin
22: Rogue(13): Crippling Strike
23: Rogue(14)
24: Rogue(15): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, (DEX=27)
25: Rogue(16): Slippery Mind
26: Rogue(17)
27: Rogue(18): Great Dexterity II, (DEX=28)
28: Rogue(19): DEX+1, Defensive Roll, (DEX=29)
29: Rogue(20)
30: Rogue(21): Great Dexterity III, (DEX=30)
31: Rogue(22)
32: Rogue(23): DEX+1, (DEX=31)
33: Rogue(24): Self Concealment I, Self Concealment II
34: Rogue(25)
35: Rogue(26)
36: Rogue(27): DEX+1, Self Concealment III, (DEX=32)
37: Rogue(28)
38: Rogue(29): Self Concealment IV
39: Rogue(30): Self Concealment V
40: Fighter(8): DEX+1, Blind Fight, (DEX=33)
Basically, you'll want to max tumble, hide, umd, discipline, search, disable trap, open lock, cocentration on every non-cross class level you can. The exact skill progression is at the bottom of the post. Following it, I got the following skills:
Concentration 43(44), Disable Trap 41(43), Discipline 43(42), Hide 42(53), Open Lock 42(53), Search 42(44), Spellcraft 20(22), Spot 40(40), Tumble 42(53), UMD 42(41)
Everything Naked: No equips whatsoever
Hitpoints: 356
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 25/21/34
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +4, Traps: +5
BAB: 26
AC: 34[35] (10 + 11(Dex) + 8(Tumble) + 2(Armor Skin) [ + 1(Size Bonus)] * Could be wrong.
Pros:
Good damage against sneak-attack vulnerable critters.
Monk AC Bonus from Wisdom Modifier.
Versatile skill spread.
Self Conceal V.
Decent Saves.
Slippery mind to help with lower Will save.
High UMD for scrolls and such.
Cons:
Low HP.
Crapptacular damage against crit/sneak immune baddies.
No Wisdom Bonus at Character Creation.
Needs good Items to fill the weak spots.
No Epic Dodge, Epic Weapon Focus, etc(pre-LL).
Full skill progression list:
01: Disable Trap(4), Hide(4), Open Lock(4), Search(4), Tumble(4), UMD(4), Save(20),
02: Concentration(5), Discipline(5), Hide(1), Tumble(1), Save(15),
03: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(18),
04: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(21),
05: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(24),
06: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(27),
07: Disable Trap(5), Hide(5), Open Lock(6), Search(6), Tumble(5), UMD(6), Save(5),
08: Concentration(2), Discipline(2), Save(6),
09: Concentration(1), Discipline(1), Save(9),
10: Concentration(1), Save(13),
11: Disable Trap(4), Hide(4), Open Lock(4), Search(4), Tumble(4), UMD(4),
12: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(3),
13: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(6),
14: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(9),
15: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(12),
16: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(15),
17: Concentration(7), Discipline(8), Hide(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), Save(3),
18: Disable Trap(2), Hide(1), Open Lock(2), Search(2), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(2), Save(2),
19: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(5),
20: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(8),
21: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(11),
22: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(14),
23: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(17),
24: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(20),
25: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(23),
26: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(28),
27: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(31),
28: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(36),
29: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(39),
30: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(44),
31: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(47),
32: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(52),
33: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(55),
34: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(60),
35: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(63),
36: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(68),
37: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spellcraft(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(71),
38: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(76),
39: Disable Trap(1), Hide(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(40), Tumble(1), UMD(1), Save(41),
40: Concentration(23), Discipline(23),